egomassive's Knytt Stories Plus mod

Yeah, I'm amazed at all you've done to expand the versatility of knytt stories.   I haven't said it in a while, but I've always wished for a intellectual sequel to knytt stories perhaps simply called "Stories" which would free the mechanics of the game from being only about knytts.  You've pretty much done everything I would have wanted!

the tabs on the latest version (2.3) do not work for me. The sign tab is OK but the warp tab displays the sign tab, and then all the others are wrongly placed.

Blast! I have to break that part in order to work on it. Silly isn't it? Sometimes I forget to fix it again.

I love you mod. I know you are not planning on modifying it further. From my point of view, I am missing 2 things which would have helped me in my level design:
-hidding a screen from the map upgrade
-adding the custom character for the flags

You asked about hiding rooms before and I completely forgot to respond. There isn't a way to program it to hide a room, but if you place the room at least 13 screens away from the edge of the level, then it will never be seen on the map. I like to put them 20 screens away so I can hold shift and scroll twice to get there.

As for the character checking thing, I considered it, but I decided that designers could either switch on a flag at the same time and check that, or shift to a version of the map specifically designed for that character.

Also, I have in some cases a strange bug. Sometimes, the sign tab does not display messages for sign2 or higher.

I'll look into it.

@ Headgrinder: Almost every graphic can be changed now, which was one of my goals. Although, I'm still making stories about Juni and the Knytt universe. I'm excited to see what level designers will do with less limitations and more game play options.

Big level editor update, I've given it heart surgery. Its tendency to duplicate menu commands, especially when called by keyboard shortcuts, should no longer be an issue. I said I'd try this after the summer hiatus, but it was driving me crazy as I was using it. I've also finished implementing the Shift Target fields of the Script dialogue. I completely forgot to before.

At this point the to-do list for the editor is:

• Implement the last 4 dialogue tabs
• Finish adding context bar messages
• Hide non-official objects in object selector when format is set lower than 4
• Add little extras like "go to shift target"
• Test rigorously

Get the latest editor in the opening post.

I still have the problem where the mouse wheel will stop working for choosing tileset/gradient/etc. I think when I reported this before I said that it was after opening and closing the scrip editor, but now it just seems like it always happens when I run it and I have to reset to fix it. I know you weren't planning on wasting a lot more time with the editor now but I really wanted to use this editor for my next level and this doesn't help...

I figured it might still be broken. I didn't do any thing to fix the wheel, I just fixed problems that could arise from closing the script panel. I think I know what the issue is, but I don't have a wheel on this computer. I'll see if I can borrow one.

The summer hiatus has begun. I'm releasing the last build of the editor beta ego 3.1. The only real difference is that it automatically selects the last level edited at start up. Normally the levels I edit are near the top of the list, but recently I was working on a level by the Nifforum and I found looking for it every time I opened the editor tedious. I've used it quite a bit, and I haven't seen any stability issues. I find it raises my productivity considerably, so I guess the project has been worthwhile.

Thanks for the update.
Chrome is warning me about the editor zip, telling me it can be dangerous. This didn't happen with previous versions, have any idea what this could be about? Or could it be a new chrome feature?

Chrome is warning me about the editor zip, telling me it can be dangerous. This didn't happen with previous versions, have any idea what this could be about? Or could it be a new chrome feature?

I've heard Chrome marks every executable it encounters as "potentially malicious" unless it has been individually whitelisted.

Ok, really weird problem... "Test Level" now opens Knytt instead of Knytt Stories? Can someone test this, maybe it's some crazy problem on my side. Also the title of the window is always just "map".

To fix the test level feature open the EditorSettings.Temp in the Worlds folder. Change the executable line to the proper name. I may have messed it up somehow, but I don't remember.
[ego]
Executable=Knytt Stories Ego.exe

As for the title, I use it to print messages to myself while programming. Currently it tells which window has focus. You should also be able to make it say, "ini," "tab," and "none." The current version wasn't supposed to be a release version, but I sailed past the cutoff date without noticing it.

To fix the test level feature open the EditorSettings.Temp in the Worlds folder. Change the executable line to the proper name. I may have messed it up somehow, but I don't remember.

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[ego]
Executable=Knytt Stories Ego.exe


I should have mentioned this before, but everything was ok in the EditorSettings file, that wasn't the problem. I just redownloaded KS and your mod and everything seems fine now.

Is there a way to have multiple triggers in one sign? I mean if I have Sign(A), Sign2(A), all the way to Sign5(A), could I have a sign trigger in Sign2(A) and another in Sign3(A)?

Another question, when I use a trigger to spawn an object, how do I choose in which layer it is created?

Quote from: egomassive on June 06, 2012, 15:39:26

To fix the test level feature open the EditorSettings.Temp in the Worlds folder. Change the executable line to the proper name. I may have messed it up somehow, but I don't remember.

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[ego]
Executable=Knytt Stories Ego.exe


I should have mentioned this before, but everything was ok in the EditorSettings file, that wasn't the problem. I just redownloaded KS and your mod and everything seems fine now.

I don't know what was going on there then. I checked my editor settings file and it said "Knytt Stories Ego.exe" and it worked even though I renamed the executable "Knytt Stories.exe". My guess is MMF2 uses a windows host function to locate the correct program, and Windows will guess at the solution when there's a problem.

Is there a way to have multiple triggers in one sign? I mean if I have Sign(A), Sign2(A), all the way to Sign5(A), could I have a sign trigger in Sign2(A) and another in Sign3(A)?

Sorry, there's only one Shift and one Trigger per Sign. However, you might get more Shifts by spawning a Sign area to the screen. When the player is touching 2 different Sign areas only one sign will show. It's possible you could use this to your advantage. I should mention that Sign A will always call Shift A and/or Trigger A. There's no way to change that either.

Another question, when I use a trigger to spawn an object, how do I choose in which layer it is created?

The spawn will appear on the same layer as the Trigger. Within the layer it is just below the Trigger regardless of its xy coordinates.

I think I found a bug. I'm trying to use timed shifts, and everything works fine until I try to use a shift that goes to a different screen. If a timed shift points to a different screen, Juni will show up in that screen after the given time but will start falling through solid ground, only stopping if there's something deadly in her path. During this, it is impossible to control her movement. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, maybe it's really a bug.

Wow. That sounds like a bug. Hmm. If it is, there's nothing I can do about it at this time. *Looks into it...*

Yeah, you had announced the hiatus before so I'm not really expecting any of this to be fixed too soon. I'll just keep going and hope the mod has been updated by the time I finish the level, which won't be for a few months.