Mafia 8- Day 2

@Lunar, transparency, feels sincere.

I think there isn't any particular tell on Mocha either way (except for gross inactivity). How can Mocha be transparent when he only makes such nullish comments? He hasn't actually made any case against anyone. Transparency seems easy to pull off if one says little.

But more interestingly, you're again basing your reads on feeling.
I just can't accept statements of the form "Razzor feels town" or "Mocha feels town". I haven't actually seen why either of them are more likely to be town than not.
You seem to assert that Razzor is likely to be town, when you show me why that should be, I'll agree.

And if you're basing your tells on them by that subtle subconscious tinge (which evolution has chiseled at to be sometimes right), fair enough.
But that's inadmissible as evidence. In fact, you should know that.
Which brings me to the question of why do you tell us how you feel, if you know that it cannot be used objectively and it is (for all intents and purposes) baseless?

I was referring to Razzorman in my post, not Mocha.
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Evidence is good but a gut reads are helpful supplements to a case.
I used to hate gut read but over time I have grown to like them more.
Whats wrong with broadcasting that feeling anyway. As town, it is your duty to say what you think of others.
(I think evidence means less than you think BTW. Mafia is all about interpretations about what is scummy and what is not and "gut reads" are an important part of this process.)

Vote Update

4 to lynch.

Budja: (1) Limelemon
Kaizoman666: (1) Budja
Peppyhare4000 (1) Lunar_Tick

Alive
Mochaalatte
Budja
Limelemon
Peppyhare4000
Razzorman
Lunar_Tick
kaizoman666

4 days left to vote. Extensions can be requested.

But more interestingly, you're again basing your reads on feeling.

Of course he is. So are a lot of other people. For instance, if someone says something that they think is scummy, then they're still basing it on their feelings.

But, anyway, I'm going to go with vote:LimeLemon. While it's true that Budja is a little aggressive towards theiza, that's not his main focus like LL said (he's also going after me and Razzor). And, from what I'm seeing, LL is being much more aggressive towards Budja, as if he is absolutely certain he should die. So, due to the fact that theres not actually that much I can find to base my vote on, I'm going to have to go with LL.

So, due to the fact that theres not actually that much I can find to base my vote on, I'm going to have to go with LL.

You are voting for LL just you can't find much to base your vote on? I don't even...

Where is Dataflashsabot anyways?

Oh right... He was nightkilled. *headdesk

You are voting for LL just you can't find much to base your vote on? I don't even...

I'm voting LL because I can't find as many reasons to vote anyone else, not that I don't have any information at all. Theres not really enough proof that you, theiza, Peppy, or most of the other people here are Mafia, and LL is the one I have the most reason to vote. Honestly, I don't feel like dragging this day on as long as the first.

Ok kaizo, what do you think of LL's case on me?

@Lunar, what do you think of kaizo?

Wow. This round is fail. We're getting nowhere.

Vote update more like bump

4 to lynch.

Budja: (1) Limelemon
Kaizoman666: (1) Budja
Peppyhare4000 (1) Lunar_Tick
Limelemon: (1) kaizoman666

Alive
Mochaalatte
Budja
Limelemon
Peppyhare4000
Razzorman
Lunar_Tick
kaizoman666

2 days left to vote. Extensions can be requested.

@Lunar, what do you think of kaizo?

I'm getting a 'needs looking into' read from Kaizo. I don't have the time to write up such a post.
My first estimation is closest to 'possibly scum'. It would not be completely crazy to lynch Kaizo.
I think I'd rather have a Peppy lynch rather than a Kaizo lynch. I'm not convinced of Kaizo's scumminess and he's still rather useful to the town. Or at least more useful than Peppy, who hasn't posted since mid D1.
In brief, it seems there just as much evidence (maybe a little less) attesting to Peppy's scummines as there is to Kaizo's.
If we were to have a lynch right now it's definitely Peppy that I would lynch.

I apologise for inactivity, present and past.

Liemlemons case against Budja is weird. Needs backing up with quotes.

The rest of the town needs nudging.

Maybe Razzorman could enlighten us: Kaizo or Peppy or other?

Intresting: Discounting my Peppy vote, only three people are being voted or are voting. What do you make of that?

Budja: (1) Limelemon
Limelemon: (1) kaizoman666
Kaizoman666: (1) Budja

XOMG three mafias
oh wait im not mafia so kaizo and budja must be IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE
lynch nao plz

Intresting: Discounting my Peppy vote, only three people are being voted or are voting. What do you make of that?

Budja: (1) Limelemon
Limelemon: (1) kaizoman666
Kaizoman666: (1) Budja

So, let me get this straight: If we have actually voted, we're suspicious? Where the hell do you get that logic?
For that matter, notice we are forming a circle: LL->Budja->Me->LL again. If two of us were working together as mafia, why would we be voting for each other?

In brief, it seems there just as much evidence (maybe a little less) attesting to Peppy's scummines as there is to Kaizo's.

Can I ask a question about this? What evidence do we even have?

In brief, it seems there just as much evidence (maybe a little less) attesting to Peppy's scummines as there is to Kaizo's.

Can I ask a question about this? What evidence do we even have?
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In my opinion, that's just it. It the absence of any information to possibly be drawn from Peppy's few posts that makes him seem scummy. As for your case, it's your near-constant defending of Peppy that makes you seem scummy. But alas, I turn my case to the following-

XOMG three mafias
oh wait im not mafia so kaizo and budja must be IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE
lynch nao plz

Well now, this is interesting. LL, it seems you've gone completely insane. Why exactly do you think budja is in the Mafia? Where's your evidence hmm? And better yet, why exactly are you so keen on ending the day so soon? I would like, sir, an explanation.