Mafia Round 6.5 CONFIRMATION

On Koromi:

Quote from: koromi on June 07, 2009, 07:01:00

it seems pretty unfair to me that i could be lynched simply because i was chosen randomly.

One vote and Koromi mentions future possible lynches of him? Quaint.

Quote from: koromi on June 07, 2009, 07:01:00

..and it seems suspicious to me that you seem not to care who is lynched.

Random baseless statement, I think.
Generally, words like 'seem' and 'could be' water down the suspiciousness of these posts, so... nothing doing with Koromi.

On NES:

Quote from: NESgamer190 on June 07, 2009, 14:47:43

I doubt anyone wants me to roleclaim at all, as I'm pretty sure people know from my mafia gaming history who I wind up being 99% of the time...

False probability syllogism. Your role in this game does not hinge on the role you had during previous mafia games. You have chosen, in this post, a peculiar line of defense which fails easily. Why did you choose to point out to use that you have usually were an innocent (regardless if you were or not, I'm not bothered to check)? Why such a desperate defense?

Quote from: NESgamer190 on June 08, 2009, 03:57:17

Aye, you've left me but no choice but to give you my final two warnings to thee before thou all maketh fatal moves.
Firstly, you should learn that those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it,
and secondly, I will roleclaim if thou desire it, in fact...  I am but a mere townsperson again.  Failure to heed this final warning will give the mafia a head start in repeating history (Translation: a victory for mafia will occur if I wind up hung).  *pulls out cyanide if it comes to his death sentence*

Speaking about this game, at least: Why all this melodrama? Tactically, NESGamer, you are horribly inept. Subterfuge and subtlety seems to elude you. Why? Why are you so inherently paranoid, overprotective of yourself and also so pessimistic? 7 votes weren't so close when you started going all crazy arse. :P

On Shawn:

Quote from: shawnachu on June 07, 2009, 17:08:25

There's no way to tell who someone is on the first day. You'd need a voting pattern that points at that person being a night role, and even then you can't be sure.

Well. Behaviour in the thread, stumbles a mafia makes, jumping on bandwagons but never making a proper case against suspects... all these things could help weed out a mafia player during the first day.
It is unwise to dismiss Day 1 as inevitably futile, based on the assertion that mafia can be found only randomly on Day 1. Also remember, that even if we do lynch a townie, Day 1 can give all sorts of background information about players, their actions, the way they react. Of course, this knowledge can be implemented all the better Day 2 and later, but Day 1 is by no means futile, if you are insinuating it is.

On Bored:

Quote from: Bored2death on June 08, 2009, 03:19:41

By implying everybody should be voting, it seems to indicate you want somebody lynched.

An interesting post. Where does NESGamer imply everybody should be voting?
Your vote (which you place a little later on in the same post) looks like it is based (at least partly) on NESgamers indication he's desperate for a lynch. I don't really see this desperation. All I see is a paranoid NES who is most probably some kind of power role, and has become entirely oversensitive due having this role.

Quote from: Bored2death on June 08, 2009, 21:34:53

Even if you are as you claim, one deceased townie (which I pray you are not, because it would hurt the town) would not necessarily mean the end of the game for all of us.

One should attempt to completely exclude the chance of NES being a townie before voting for him, no? You seem not entirely sure with your vote on NES. Is this the case?

Quote from: Bored2death on June 08, 2009, 21:34:53

Looking on the history of mafia can lead to resolving the problems in the future.

Indeed. Looking at the general game behaviour all the players display, in an effort to promote better ways of playing, such as openness and conversation rather than lynching randomly and relying on night powers is very wise.
However, one cannot come to a conclusion on a specific player based on, for example, one's change in behaviour from one game to the next.
I see now that your argument was based on NESGamer's lie (which I may talk about later) rather than on his past roles.


As a general note to everybody, I would like to encourage you to ask before voting. One can understand a lot about one's opinions and stances by asking. Furthermore, a question doesn't necessarily have to have good motives! A question could be aimed at a suspect to try and make them contradict themselves or a potential mafia to force them into making mistakes. The most basic question in mafia, from which nearly all other questions stem is: "What do you think about this?".