On Salmoneous:This is ridiculous.
I daren't ask what you find ridiculous.
To be blunt, I think you knew the fashion of the machinations of this game before you signed up. So, if you don't like it, either add something of use and clamour on, or don't and suck it up.
Humbug.
Think, what would the mafia do in the voting time/day.
...?
Salmoneous, please expand on this. What do the mafia do during the voting time/day? And how do you suggest we play the rest of the game?
On Purple Pineapple:Because I don't want a lynch just yet.
Hold on there. I know I would be a hypocrite of massive proportions if I accused you of deviating from the standard average townie persona but I will.
Let us assume by this post you meant "I don't want a lynch of Victor just yet". I cannot fathom a situation where a townie would be so sure of another player's innocence to vote for another person (perhaps encouraging or hoping for a bandwagon*?) as a diversion, to save that player.
It is more likely you mean "I don't want any kind of lynch just yet" (which is what you actually say
). The tactic you used to stop a lynch was just voting on some guy of whom a big demagoguery-style case was made! This can easily be interpreted as hopping on a bandwagon. You definitely were/are not campaigning for taking things slow. Instead of pointing out (as budja did a while back) that we're nearing a lynch and should be careful, you vote. This contradicts you?
This reason you give, I find it inadequate and suspicious.
FOS: Purple Pineapple.
Admittedly, that was not very well phrased. I already said Salmoneous seemed scummy for a few reasons, and I was using that as backup for my point.
Sorry, I don't follow. You were using "that" (what?) as "backup" (huh?) for "my point" (which one?)
Furthermore, I'd like Purple Pineapple to elaborate much more on why he voted Salmoneous, and why he didn't/doesn't support the Victor vote. A whole page of Battlehawk's opinions and Sabata's (and others') rebuttals and you barely comment?
On Sabata:1.) There's already been, what, 6.5 pages of reasonable discussion? And the first day isn't even over yet!
6.5 pages isn't enough if we are not sure of our target. The mind set of sitting down to the discussion table as if it were a chore is very detrimental and usually brings the mentality of wanting to leave as soon as we've made our decision and as fast as possible.
One doesn't need to be active to play, but one needs to be active to win.
2.) It's already been said many times, in previous mafia games and by other people that the first day can't generate much valuable evidence in weeding out the mafia.
Yes it can. It is just very, very difficult to see it. The first day is the most valuable, one could say. It indirectly affects the rest of the course of the game and the actions during it are far from random.
Whoever we lynch, the behaviour of the mafia N1 and D2 (and by extension the rest of the game) necessarily hinge on D1 actions and lynch, so D1 is, albeit indirectly and invisibly, the most evidence generating day in the game.
D1 also gives us
direct evidence, but of course we won't be able to spot it right now. If we stir things up now, we'll be able to look back to D1 when a player starts getting very suspicious indeedums, and see in the D1 posts incriminating evidence in his posts.
On Battlehawk:I won't quote, but in Battlehawk's post #103, a lot of the argumentation is based on the tenet that Salmoneous is contradicting himself on various issues. In fact the sting "contradict" appears five times in his post.
However, I didn't really see the contradictions Salmon was making. He seems to hold a very clear, one sided and blatant position on the issues he mentions.
Battlehawk, do enlighten me by presenting Salmoneous' posts in which he defends two different and contradicting stances.
At Sabata, Purple Pineapple and Batlehawk:I want your views on Battlehawk's post #103, Sabata's post #105, my posts on the matter of supporting or opposing a Salmoneous lynch and anything else that you'd like to comment on.
And finally:so you'll just pop in here and there when your life is threatened?
that's hardly going to help the town find the mafia.
Indeed. However, I think we have a hot discussion going on, no need to lynch Victor yet.
Limelemon, Technogeek and Shawnachu also need to get it on.