[Lunatic] [Challenge] MW's 'Unbeatable' Level

Made it up to the first room in the castle, but then I had a good hard look at myself and stopped playing.

Playing difficult levels for the sake of completing them seems rather hollow to me. Although I think the hardcore Knytt players (you know, those that keep insisting to the designer a level labelled hard is actually easy) should have a ball with this one.

For the most part decent and interesting combinations of challenges. Personally though I hold the view that if you're going to put the player through a hard time at least supplement it with consistent ambience/music and proper backdrops.

I admit I'm pretty bad when it comes to story lines- but I know there are people that like to complete challenges just for the sake of completing them- various games have sidequests like that and are not much related to a story at all.

I was considering the same music in most cases but the music tends to halt very easily as it does not repeat itself- and a game with no music I find much less exciting compared to a game with various music. The same went with the backgrounds- one background throughout the game is good, but various ones seem to make it less dull for me.

To make music repeat, resave it as ambiance, then use it as ambiance, instead (don't replace standard ambiances, though, and save the ambiance in you world folder).

To make music repeat, resave it as ambiance, then use it as ambiance, instead (don't replace standard ambiances, though, and save the ambiance in you world folder).

Really? I had no idea. I'm still sort of new to the whole level making- this is only my 3rd one actually.

That's ok... I figured it out only recently, and just thought I would spread the word. One problem, though, is that it does make the file size bigger...

It got soooooo hard I gave up...

And I was even using the cheats!   

I beat it!
Wow. I'm impressed. You made it hard, but not in a cheap way.
Great level design.
Really....Heh...It wasn't THAT hard....

I beat it!
Wow. I'm impressed. You made it hard, but not in a cheap way.
Great level design.
Really....Heh...It wasn't THAT hard....

No, it wasn't. But just try the REAL Advanced version.

The REAL Advanced version being the one without save points? No thanks. That doesn't make it harder, all it does is making the level less fun to play.

I couldn't get past the first 2 challenges there.

The REAL Advanced version being the one without save points? No thanks. That doesn't make it harder, all it does is making the level less fun to play.

I figured the 'absolute extreme' people would find something to do with trying to beat it. I know there are people that like challenges like that where they try to get through something without saving even once which is where the idea came from- in retrospect it isn't fun for most people though, but that's why there's the version with a lot of save points.
(PS: I can't even beat the version with no save points...but I imagine someone out there will one day do it.)

Let's think.. assume it's only three tries a challenge. That's already 59049 tries for the first ten challenges.

I figured the 'absolute extreme' people would find something to do with trying to beat it. I know there are people that like challenges like that where they try to get through something without saving even once which is where the idea came from- in retrospect it isn't fun for most people though, but that's why there's the version with a lot of save points.
(PS: I can't even beat the version with no save points...but I imagine someone out there will one day do it.)

I love challenges, I do, but only if they are fun to do.
Here's an idea:
Let's say...You have 1000 points.
Run through the level. When you die, that's minus 5 point. If you use a save point, 10 points off.
Try to finish it as fast as possible while keeping your points up.

I think I'll try it...Someday.

I love challenges, I do, but only if they are fun to do.
Here's an idea:
Let's say...You have 1000 points.
Run through the level. When you die, that's minus 5 point. If you use a save point, 10 points off.
Try to finish it as fast as possible while keeping your points up.

I think I'll try it...Someday.

That is actually a pretty nice idea- if I can learn more about the game maybe I can figure out how to put things like that in.

Mess with the source, first.

..Or you could add 999 extra lives, a time limit and cookies as a reward for completing the challenge.