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Title: Reduction map (Spoilers)
Post by: Lit Knob on June 02, 2022, 16:35:40

Looks like April Fools came twice this year.
Here's a map of Reduction.

Some warp/shift variants not included.

Full Scale (https://drive.google.com/file/d/161bAOBLIgl0OJ4NuZiemdXDLigzDU66v/view?usp=sharing)

Half Scale (https://drive.google.com/file/d/10Cf7MAXI6lg6Ecdf3i8Ej_ZXxi5_p8o-/view?usp=sharing)

Title: Re: Reduction map (Spoilers)
Post by: Wibi on June 02, 2022, 23:06:47

Nice map! Two comments (slightly spoilery) (...hence the spoiler tag):

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- The inexplicable red door in the Meadow was a reference to some shortcut doors in TMAFL2k22. They appeared in screens you could only reach by doing a triplejump, where the original The Machine would likely have a voidscreen. I don't think you can actually reach it in the current version, but you probably could in the initial version that had a wallswim if you went to the very right of x1012y1000 (the last screen of the FCG Temple) before shifting. (That wallswim was fairly minor and only allowed you to skip x1010y998 (first challenge screen in The Meadow), but it was patched out to keep consistent lore with an obscure you-broke-the-level secret that says the level is too low-budget for wallswims and voidscreens. ...Seriously.) I would be interested in knowing how you actually reached this.
- There is one screen missing in this (aside from the you-broke-it screens) that was added in v3: x1009y1005, which you can get by going to the rightmost corner of x1008y1005. Hopefully it was actually in v3, and I didn't upload an incomplete version.

Title: Re: Reduction map (Spoilers)
Post by: Lit Knob on June 03, 2022, 01:04:57

Thanks. C)

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I don't think you can actually reach it in the current version, but you probably could in the initial version that had a wallswim if you went to the very right of x1012y1000 (the last screen of the FCG Temple) before shifting.
I would be interested in knowing how you actually reached this.

That's what I thought was the way of reaching it (or something like that), but I now realize you can't. Sorry, I just cheated there.
Do I have to remove that screen?

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but it was patched out to keep consistent lore with an obscure you-broke-the-level secret that says the level is too low-budget for wallswims and voidscreens. ...Seriously.)

How do you get there, if I may ask?

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There is one screen missing in this (aside from the you-broke-it screens) that was added in v3: x1009y1005, which you can get by going to the rightmost corner of x1008y1005. Hopefully it was actually in v3, and I didn't upload an incomplete version.

Ohhh, I didn't check that corner in my playthrough. When I saw that screen in the editor, I assumed it was just "unfinished business". I'll add it.

Title: Re: Reduction map (Spoilers)
Post by: Wibi on June 03, 2022, 06:33:38

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That's what I thought was the way of reaching it (or something like that), but I now realize you can't. Sorry, I just cheated there.
Do I have to remove that screen?

It's honestly kind of interesting to see it again. Plus, it's directly connected to the rest of the map. No need to remove it.

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How do you get there, if I may ask?

It involves using a Glipjump (again) to narrowly break out of bounds in one screen into what would be a wallswim. There's also a different secret that involves abusing a bug with warps to reach what would be a voidscreen. These secrets aren't connected to the main part of the level (and are a bit obscure for a casual player), so they're not necessary to map. I'll leave how and where as an exercise to the player.

Title: Re: Reduction map (Spoilers)
Post by: Lit Knob on June 03, 2022, 17:13:11

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It involves using a Glipjump (again) to narrowly break out of bounds in one screen into what would be a wallswim. There's also a different secret that involves abusing a bug with warps to reach what would be a voidscreen. These secrets aren't connected to the main part of the level (and are a bit obscure for a casual player), so they're not necessary to map. I'll leave how and where as an exercise to the player.

Oh, wow. Some truly obscure stuff, I see. :shifty:

Ok, I'll just add that one VG reference then.

Spoiler: Fixing smileys (click to show/hide)

No idea where I should post this trick, but:
To fix broken smileys in spoilers, put an equal sign in the first spoiler tag, like this: "[§poiler=]" :P

Title: Re: Reduction map (Spoilers)
Post by: Lit Knob on June 03, 2022, 20:23:53

Updated the map.

Title: Re: Reduction map (Spoilers)
Post by: Lit Knob on June 07, 2022, 23:09:14

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It involves using a Glipjump (again) to narrowly break out of bounds in one screen into what would be a wallswim. There's also a different secret that involves abusing a bug with warps to reach what would be a voidscreen. These secrets aren't connected to the main part of the level (and are a bit obscure for a casual player), so they're not necessary to map. I'll leave how and where as an exercise to the player.

Aand I managed to find them (both "shift hell" and "whales". Had to cheat for the latter).
They were so unexpected. XD
The term obscure really fits them.