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Temporary => Knytt Stories Level Releases => Topic started by: Polana on May 09, 2022, 14:31:45

Title: [Challenge/Maze/Scenic] [Hard/Very hard] [Large] [KS+]Hostile landscape
Post by: Polana on May 09, 2022, 14:31:45
When I started building this level, it was supposed to be much smaller. The maze part was supposed to be simple underwater tunnel with some challenges and the final cave was not planned at all so if this level feels to you like three levels hastily stitched into one, you're right. It's a bit messed up and with lots of backtracking. I started playing with the tileset in the editor without any idea for the finished level so the "story" only came later, mostly to justify why it looks so unpleasant. I apologise in advance for any damage done to your screens and retinas.


Download here. (https://knyttlevels.com/levels/Polana%20-%20Hostile%20landscape.knytt.bin)

Download here (fixed version). (https://knyttlevels.com/levels/Polana%20-%20Hostile%20landscape%20fixed.knytt.bin)

Download here (fixeder version). (https://knyttlevels.com/levels/Polana%20-%20Hostile%20landscape%20fixed%20v2.knytt.bin)

 Download here (the fixedest version). (https://knyttlevels.com/levels/Polana%20-%20Hostile%20landscape%20fixed%20v3.knytt.bin)

Also, Lit Knob made a nice map of this level (https://nifflas.lp1.nl/index.php?topic=7315.0). It contains all of the secrets though so look at it at your own discretion.
Title: Re: [Challenge/Maze/Scenic] [Hard/Very hard] [Medium] [KS+]Hostile landscape
Post by: Lit Knob on May 10, 2022, 09:13:01
Yes, my eyes may have died a bit, but I love those OCOs, music, and overall mood. I'd say it's on the Large part of the spectrum though, that's a huge maze. Difficulty tag is right.
Good job. :hiddenstar:
Title: Re: [Challenge/Maze/Scenic] [Hard/Very hard] [Medium] [KS+]Hostile landscape
Post by: Polana on May 11, 2022, 14:30:29
I'm glad you liked the level, especially the brutally unfair cave. I was afraid people would find it too unfair. There might be another level set on the island because whenever Juni gets on nice tropical island, some weird stuff happens.

Thank you so much for the advice on how to fix the COs. I was quite fed up with all of the COs that I just took the frames from Knytt DS (which has many errors) and called it a day. I'll eventually make fixed version.
Title: Re: [Challenge/Maze/Scenic] [Hard/Very hard] [Medium] [KS+]Hostile landscape
Post by: Lit Knob on May 12, 2022, 05:43:02
That's because the hologram reduces its unfairness :P

Oh, I would love a "Shipwrecked, But It's Format=4"

I completely agree that sprite sheets in KSDS are awful and shouldn't be used as templates.
However, that wasn't the only issue.
Spoiler: Nature of the issues (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [Challenge/Maze/Scenic] [Hard/Very hard] [Medium] [KS+]Hostile landscape
Post by: Lit Knob on May 14, 2022, 08:12:01
I checked the new version.
Spoiler: Here's what I found (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [Challenge/Maze/Scenic] [Hard/Very hard] [Medium] [KS+]Hostile landscape
Post by: GrayFace on May 18, 2022, 12:26:38
Nice level!
Top-left corner of x1009y1007 doesn't have walls. Also, middle of x1027y1011.
Title: Re: [Challenge/Maze/Scenic] [Hard/Very hard] [Medium] [KS+]Hostile landscape
Post by: Lit Knob on May 18, 2022, 15:46:42
Oh wow, I didn't notice that.
Eagle-eyed as always, GrayFace!

Title: Re: [Challenge/Maze/Scenic] [Hard/Very hard] [Medium] [KS+]Hostile landscape
Post by: Polana on May 20, 2022, 21:56:12
@ GrayFace: I'm glad you liked it and thank you for noticing those bugs. It seems I'll have to make another version eventually.
@Lit Knob: There's indeed nothing. That part of the level was meant to be unfair and confusing after all. Post the map if you want.
Title: Re: [Challenge/Maze/Scenic] [Hard/Very hard] [Medium] [KS+]Hostile landscape
Post by: Lit Knob on May 21, 2022, 00:15:20
@Lit Knob: There's indeed nothing. That part of the level was meant to be unfair and confusing after all. Post the map if you want.
Oh, ok. That makes sense.

I just posted the map.

Spoiler: Friendly reminder (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [Challenge/Maze/Scenic] [Hard/Very hard] [Medium] [KS+]Hostile landscape
Post by: Lit Knob on May 27, 2022, 22:32:39
 Glad you liked the map. :^^:
Title: Re: [Challenge/Maze/Scenic] [Hard/Very hard] [Medium] [KS+]Hostile landscape
Post by: GrayFace on May 29, 2022, 12:40:21
The newest link is broken.
I just posted the map.
Where?
Title: Re: [Challenge/Maze/Scenic] [Hard/Very hard] [Medium] [KS+]Hostile landscape
Post by: Polana on May 29, 2022, 13:11:18
Oh, thanks. For some reason firefox copied just the name of the level and not the entire adress. Fixed.

LK posted the map in another post on this forum and I made link to it in the first post (working).
Title: Re: [Challenge/Maze/Scenic] [Hard/Very hard] [Medium] [KS+]Hostile landscape
Post by: Purple Ink on July 04, 2022, 04:34:31
I have to be honest. I didn't think I would like this level at first but by the end I realised I really did enjoy it. The maze had me confused for a bit so that extended the gameplay but overall I didn't find it too difficult. I agree with Lit. This is probably a large level rather than medium. But, there's no real consensus on what that actually means so I guess it doesn't actually matter what it's labelled as. Anyway, great job! :)
Title: Re: [Challenge/Maze/Scenic] [Hard/Very hard] [Large] [KS+]Hostile landscape
Post by: Lucinda on January 28, 2023, 23:00:56
This instantly became one of my favorite Knytt levels. It's like Deep Freeze meets Knytt Underground. We need more hardcore mazes on this forum.