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Title: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: Purple Ink on March 31, 2020, 21:28:56
Years ago Juni discovered the new land of Fallonar. She told her knytt friends about it and many of them settled in. However, trouble arose. A wizard is threatening to destroy the knytts so Juni must return to Fallonar and try to stop him.

I'm pleased to finally present Reditus! :D


This level requires egomassive's KS+ mod. Download KS+ here (http://egomassive.com/ks/).

Download the level:
Through Google drive (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mu9vk7mNjSJybLQjUh2nL1pjL6ezb290)
Through Catbox (https://files.catbox.moe/q9tbz9.bin)

Thanks to VG for beta-testing! :)
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: pfrangip on March 31, 2020, 22:07:36
Ho-boy, this is another big one, isn't it? I've downloaded it and given it a quick play and I can already tell there's a TON here! Thanks for making it, and I look forward to exploring all that there is to see!
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: plural on April 01, 2020, 19:22:16
Played for a bit. The parts where Dewdrop Caverns connects to other tilesets look absolutely great. This is the first level where I wish I could scroll around when looking at the map. Also, I didn't realize you started with the map powerup and once I was able to check the map while wandering it felt so much less daunting. I feel like any epic exploration based levels could use it just so the player knows when they've been somewhere before. I stopped to post once I got killed by the toast in the tree, but it seems great, lots of small cool touches, and some really good tilesets. (I also cheated and looked at the files so I also want to say that Fubaka's contributions are also top notch.)
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: nojdemo2 on April 04, 2020, 12:58:47
Loving the level. Loved Advena and this is even better. The underwater feature is a brilliant idea.

I've managed to get all but three creatures and one trophy before resorting to the level editor. However I'm stuck. Even with the editor I can't find the eye. Can I have a clue?? Please????

Edit: Never mind -  I just worked it out. Very clever level design!
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: SC on April 05, 2020, 04:20:03
Ooooooooooh. Gonna have to stream this after I move to the new place. This looks pretty good...
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on April 09, 2020, 21:16:31
Glad I was of help! I had a lot of fun during the betatesting  C)

This is one of the best exploration levels I've ever played. Lots of different areas with unique visuals, tons (and I mean TONS) of secrets and collectibles and many neat mechanics at play. If you guys liked Advena, be sure to not miss this one!
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: GrayFace on April 15, 2020, 10:50:46
This is not Challenge/Exploration, this is Exploration first. I'd even call it just Exploration or Environmental/Challenge, though I guess I haven't made it to a place where challenge starts. Not my kind of level.
Spoiler: close to completion (click to show/hide)
Edit: Found the door I've missed with the editor and made a new post. I guess this isn't just Exploration, but it's Exploration/Challenge, not Challenge/Exploration.
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: pfrangip on April 16, 2020, 17:55:22
Well, I found AN ending! I gotta say, this was quite the relaxing, peaceful level. It's clear you put a lot of effort and passion into this level Purple Ink.  <3

I'm not sure I would mark this as Challenge or Very Hard. Even Hard is a bit of a stretch. But I digress.

I did enjoy it from the exploration point of view. It wasn't the sort of level I could sit there and play for hours, but every morning I played it for about 20-30 minutes to relax and finally it "clicked."

Thanks again for making this!

Quote from: GrayFace
I think I've been everywhere now. Never found the Eye, Hologram or any keys, never been underwater or inside lava. Am I supposed to visit some random screens I've already been to after pressing the 2 white buttons?

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: GrayFace on April 16, 2020, 20:04:29
This is a beautiful level with huge potential, however I couldn't enjoy it properly for 2 reasons:
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
I'm not sure I would mark this as Challenge or Very Hard. Even Hard is a bit of a stretch.
I do think some parts of The Gauntlet are on the lower end of Very Hard. Have you been to it?
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: Purple Ink on April 26, 2020, 04:59:46
Thanks for the feedback, everyone.  :)

Sorry you didn't enjoy it, GrayFace. As for marking it challenge, that's an official category so I put it first. Also, the object is entirely a challenge to get from the start to the credits. That's why all of the hidden stuff is the way it is. It's not needed to beat the level. I put some hints about the fisherman in the level but I guess they were too hard to find or maybe too obscure. Will keep your feedback in mind. Thanks.
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: GrayFace on May 02, 2020, 06:06:41
Sorry you didn't enjoy it, GrayFace.
Sorry if I was too harsh :)

As for marking it challenge, that's an official category so I put it first.
For in-game categories I guess Environmental/Challenge that I proposed before won't work well, because it would show up in Environmental category and that would be annoying for people who want to play an Environmental level specifically. For the forum there's no reason to prioritize the official category, Exploration/Challenge fits best I think.

Also, the object is entirely a challenge to get from the start to the credits.
I don't get this point. Isn't it the objective in any level that isn't Playground?

I put some hints about the fisherman in the level but I guess they were too hard to find or maybe too obscure.
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: Purple Ink on May 08, 2020, 05:48:29
Also, the object is entirely a challenge to get from the start to the credits.
I don't get this point. Isn't it the objective in any level that isn't Playground?

I meant it's not a puzzle or maze. Though you could argue they are challenges too.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

As this is a sequel to Advena I guess I just took it for granted that people would have played it and retained some knowledge of the map.
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: jeanbeane on October 18, 2020, 01:12:18
I'm stuck and would really appreciate a hint that could get me moving forward again.

I have all of the powerups except the eye. I also have the swim mask, all of the pink flowers, 5 gold Junis, 18 coins and 35 gold creatures.

I have no keys, but know where the yellow, blue and red ones are. I can't get the yellow key yet as I need to "collect 2".....2 gold Junis?

This is a great level! You have put a lot time and effort into creating it. Thank you Purple Ink! I love that it's not just exploration with pretty screens. It IS exploration with awesome screens AND the challenge to find all of the secrets.

Again, hints would be great to nudge me along.  :bebisharen:


Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: Purple Ink on October 21, 2020, 00:31:18
I'm stuck and would really appreciate a hint that could get me moving forward again.

I have all of the powerups except the eye. I also have the swim mask, all of the pink flowers, 5 gold Junis, 18 coins and 35 gold creatures.

I have no keys, but know where the yellow, blue and red ones are. I can't get the yellow key yet as I need to "collect 2".....2 gold Junis?

You can only get the eye once you have all 50 GCs.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Without knowing which golden creatures you have I can't say for sure what you need to do. But I suspect you might be missing an area because you don't have more coins. To get there ...

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

You are correct about what you need to collect. You can get the yellow key once you have all 7.

This is a great level! You have put a lot time and effort into creating it. Thank you Purple Ink! I love that it's not just exploration with pretty screens. It IS exploration with awesome screens AND the challenge to find all of the secrets.

Again, hints would be great to nudge me along.  :bebisharen:

Glad you like the level!  :)
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: Purple Ink on August 16, 2021, 05:03:55
Okay, guys, it's been long enough. Did anyone actually find all the secrets without the editor? What about the two easter eggs? :shifty:
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: egomassive on August 16, 2021, 05:37:56
I'm sorry to say I got sidetracked after 11 artifacts, 31 creatures, and 19 coins. I still want to finish it though.

Edit: I made it to the final secret.
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
One thing I want to do after finishing this level is to put all the music in an album to simply listen to. With the music stopping every time I went underwater, I feel like I never got to hear any of the songs all the way through.
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: Purple Ink on October 02, 2021, 03:26:38
Well, that was the only way I could think to implement the final secret to make sense. I understand your complaint though and will take it into consideration for future endeavours.

I wanted it to feel like you were underwater so stopped the music. I guess I could have done something similar to Starbound and had a muffled, underwater version for the music for those screens.
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: egomassive on October 02, 2021, 12:00:32
Letting the music fade out when going underwater makes sense and it probably helps tremendously with the illusion of being underwater. It's just that sometimes I was digging a music track. By the way, I forgot to say I really enjoyed the experience. As large of a task as it was, it was still worth sticking through it to the end. When I finally found the last creature, I almost couldn't believe it. I felt joy and relief, but mostly satisfaction.
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: Purple Ink on October 10, 2021, 03:31:50
I'm glad you liked it! I'm pretty sure there is one GC that is a little too well-hidden. I feel like a lot of people missed it.
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: GrayFace on June 04, 2022, 08:27:50
I was finally able to play it in with a ball (in unreleased KS Ex version). Its speed makes exploration levels much more fun. With that and with knowledge that I need to keep track of all water I encounter before I progress in the story, I really enjoyed the level. Vast and beautiful.

One bug I found: x1004y998 checks for a wrong flag.

Edit: I made it to the final secret.
:shocked: :whoa: O_o :O
I was ready to bet anything that no-one would be able to do it without the editor. I even used some code to find stuff I missed in map.bin. (gonna incorporate that code into the editor)
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: Kira on June 13, 2023, 16:50:15
It was a very cool experiment, a kind of walk in a forest at spring
Title: Re: [KS+][Epic][Challenge/Exploration][Hard/Very Hard] Reditus
Post by: Purple Ink on June 26, 2023, 05:53:43
Thanks, Kira. :)