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Title: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on May 12, 2018, 16:20:10
Hell freezes over! Flying pigs spotted! Bat child found in cave! I'm finally making a large KS level :O

(http://vegetal.eb-creativos.com/ksstuff/sshot/forgotten_realms_1.png)

This is a project that was almost entirely born from the plethora of unfinished levels and abandoned tilesets/ideas that have been gathering digital dust in my hard drive for 2-3 years. Instead of finally discarding them for good, I decided to rescue them from oblivion and combine them all into a single large level! (probably not epic-sized, though... but I'm aiming for about 200-250 distinct screens or so).

The level will feature the classic KS progression system, although it will not be completely linear in nature. In order to reach and unlock all areas, you will have to find all power-ups and keys by thoroughly searching the lands and overcoming the occasional challenge. However, you will sometimes unlock multiple new areas at once, enabling you to explore them in any order you like.

Since this is mostly an amalgamation of many different ideas and assets (incomplete/unused tilesets and COs, abandoned levels, drafts, etcetera) and I'm focusing more on quantity over quality here, the overall level of detail and polish may not be on par with some of my other smaller releases. Still, effort is being put into making all areas look interesting and work together in a single (hopefully) cohesive experience.

And now, for the obligatory bullet list of planned features:




Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: ixMarcel on May 13, 2018, 11:18:01
With your attention to details and keen eye for graphics I'm sure this is going to be one amazing large level.
Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: sergiocornaga on May 13, 2018, 12:31:00
This looks quite wonderful, best of luck with it!

Oh, also, are you aware that the term "Forgotten Realms" is kind of in-use (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgotten_Realms) already?
Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on May 14, 2018, 13:18:41
Thanks for the kind words, guys! Hopefully I'll be able to put all this stuff to good use after years of neglect. That is not to say the level will not feature any stuff made recently, though. In fact, I already made a couple tilesets and a bunch of new COs for this.

@Sergio: I wasn't aware! Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I went with that name because I thought it represented the idea of "abandoned levels" very well. It's just a tentative title for now, though, so I might change it at some point.
Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: lilmanjs16 on May 18, 2018, 03:03:36
This looks really well done. Will play it when it is released!
Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on May 20, 2018, 17:58:48
Thanks for the interest, hope you enjoy the level when it's finished :)

I've been making good progress on this the last few days (current screen count is a little over 200). Here are a few more screenshots from recently added areas. Check them out if you want to see a quick preview for those or ignore them completely if you prefer to avoid spoilers.

Spoiler: Choose wisely (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on September 21, 2019, 15:03:10
It's aliiiIIIive!  :whoa:

Well, I guess it'd be more appropriate to say "it's not dead yet" for now. However, I've been *slowly* but steadly working on this for the past two weeks, as part of my effort to get my level design groove back on... and it seems this is finally on track to completion :D

Out of a total of 20 planned areas, 14 are basically done (I'll probably come back to them at some point to add more enemies/decorations). I currently have four unfinished areas that are about 40-60% complete each, and a new area that has been recently started (tileset is more or less ready and it's basically a matter of making screens... but oh man, am I slow at that :S ). After that, the only thing remaining will be the two bonus areas, which I have more or less planned (no screens made yet, though). I'd say the project is about 70-75% done.

The total screen count will be quite higher than I originally expected. I'm currently at around 300 screens (not counting duplicates and the like), so I now estimate the final level will feature 350-400 distinct screens.

I have also revamped the progression system quite a bit, changing the requirements I originally planned and adding a new mechanic:



I also have plans for some additional KS+ features (probably golden coins or creatures), but this is not set in stone and depends entirely on how burned out I might be when I finish everything on my current TO-DO list  :sick:

Even though the level is still incomplete, I'm considering holding an early round of betatesting in order to gather some much needed general feedback and to make sure I'm still on the right track. It's been a fairly long time since I stopped working on this and I fear I might be forgetting something critical (hopefully that's not the case since I fortunately took some notes while making the level to prevent this, but any additional peace of mind I can get would be oh so welcome). So, if you're interested in trying out the alpha version and giving me your thoughts on it (and maybe even take a more active role in this, by helping me decide where to place challenges, creatures, collectibles and such), just post here to let me know.
Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: SC on September 27, 2019, 20:19:27
God, this looks EXCELLENT. Can't wait to play the full thing!
Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on September 30, 2019, 14:52:14
Glad you're interested! Hopefully you don't have to wait for too long. I don't want to make any promises, but if things keep going as well as they've been going recently, a release before the end of the year would no longer be an impossible dream :D

Also, here are some minor updates:

* Total screen count is now at around 350 after finishing two of the remaining incomplete segments, which means I'll probably reach 400-450 with the inclusion of the bonus areas (which I have not yet started working on).

* Added a couple easter eggs I had not originally planned to, because why not?  ...oh yeah, because I want to actually finish this thing someday in the near future, that's why. Welp, too late now :P2

* I'm also adding a new custom item that will unlock a small post-game area containing some trivia about the level and each individual area.
Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on November 26, 2019, 18:52:13
Time for a progress report!

Still chipping away at this, albeit at a slower pace than last month due to all this pesky real life stuff I have to deal with :P  LPChip helped me quite a lot during the alpha testing phase by providing me with valuable feedback on the progression system, aesthetics and secret placement (thanks man!), which I'll be slowly but surely addressing as I continue plowing through the two remainding bonus areas.

As for the main (non-bonus/secret) areas, all of them are basically done by now. I recently finished adding a 40-screen long maze part to one of them, so it looks like the total screen count of the finished level will be even bigger than I previously estimated. It may even hit the 500 mark at this point, which is not particularly impressive compared to many of the larger exploration-based levels released here, but it's quite the achievement for me :O

Here are two more screenshots, probably the last ones I'll be posting before the level is released:

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: LPChip on November 27, 2019, 00:17:25
You're welcome. It's a fun level. People will be happy to play this when it comes out. :)
Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: Talps on November 28, 2019, 00:49:34
Tantalising!
Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: Purple Ink on December 06, 2019, 06:46:07
I realised I never commented here. Looking forward to this one!

And don't think that just because you made it look 1000x better I wouldn't recognise that tileset. :P
Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on December 26, 2019, 18:16:28
I have both good and bad news regarding this project. The bad news is that, due to personal reasons, I will most likely have very little time (if any) to dedicate to game/level design in the near future, which means I don't have a choice but to stop working on this level. The good news is that I managed to finish making all the areas I originally planned and the vast majority of the bonus content I wanted before this happened, so the level is basically complete and playable all the way to the end (in a manner of speaking, since this is a playground level with no ending cutscene) at this point. The only remaining stuff to do is to finish a very small after-game bonus area (which is about 70% done) and to place some extra KS+ collectibles here and there.

After thinking it over very carefully, I've decided to try and finish the bits I mentioned and fix some of the issues found while alpha testing in the next few days, and then release the level as-is. Ideally, I'd like to hold a second round of betatesting and then take my time polishing whatever rough edges and last-minute issues there might be, but that's simply not possible at this time, nor do I have any idea of when I'd be able to do all of that. Still, I'm not at all unhappy with the current status of the level and I'd rather not have a finished level collecting digital dust for months/years without being released (wouldn't be the first time!), so I believe this will be for the best in this case.

In other news, it looks like the final screen count will be somewhere around 600, not counting duplicates nor empty screens. Not quite as big of a world as Gaia or Advena, but you'll probably be exploring and collecting stuff for quite a while, especially if you're a completionist :P2
Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: cman on December 27, 2019, 10:15:30
Looking forward to it! I love levels focused in exploration and collectables! Thank you for releasing it even if not fully finished.
Title: Re: [Challenge/Playground] [Normal] [Large] Forgotten Realms
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on January 03, 2020, 17:09:48
The level has been released! (https://nifflas.lp1.nl/index.php?topic=7203.0)