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Temporary => Knytt Stories Level Releases => Topic started by: ixMarcel on March 03, 2017, 00:01:35

Title: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: ixMarcel on March 03, 2017, 00:01:35
(http://i.imgur.com/y1vEqfr.png)
{ DOWNLOAD (50,43 MB) } (http://www.mediafire.com/file/ln4a9nocvrdaz52/ixMarcel%20-%20Saving%20Thalanill.knytt.bin) { MIRROR } (https://www.dropbox.com/s/45947qj7z3cjpif/ixMarcel%20-%20Saving%20Thalanill.knytt.bin?dl=0)
Make sure you have the latest version of KS+ installed!
Type: Epic/Scenic/Challenge | Size: Large (~320 unique screens) | Difficulty: Normal/Hard
Requires: egomassive's KS Plus mod [ Download KS+ ] (http://egomassive.com/ks/) | Time to complete: ~60 minutes

Embark on a thrilling journey to save Juni's hometown!
Explore a big, carefully crafted world (featuring dozens of custom tilesets, backgrounds and Custom Objects).
Take on various, unique challenges utilizing KS+ features.
Find secret areas and collect hidden creatures.
Localise the source of an ancient evil force...


Screenshots:
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Tips & Tricks:
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List of all the Nifforum cats:
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Video walkthroughs: (SPOILERS!)
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Full credits:
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Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: pfrangip on March 03, 2017, 01:33:44
Ooh, this looks great! Downloading now!  8D

EDIT:

I gotta say, this "Cinematic mode" is great! I've been using "Fullscreen" this entire time, which distorts eveything, but cinematic mode keeps the aspect ratio. Great tip!

EDIT 2:
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: SC on March 03, 2017, 04:55:49
LOOK, THERE I AM, GARY!!

(http://i.imgur.com/SVTH6Q9.png)

 XD

No, but in all seriousness, you did a REALLY GREAT job with this level. I can definitely see why it took you a while to make. I do feel that the length of some areas are disproportionate to others that are longer (COUGHthepurplecanyonareaandthedarkblueforestCOUGH) but some sections (like the Waiting Room) are fan-flippin'-tastic.

Spoiler: ENDGAME SPOILERS (click to show/hide)

I might have to review this one soon. ;)

Well done, Marcel. Well done.
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: ixMarcel on March 03, 2017, 17:57:48
Spoiler: @SC (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on March 03, 2017, 19:42:15
Just finished the level with all 25 golden creatures collected. I have to say, this adventure was the most fun I had with a KS level in a long time, and managed to keep me interested for the entire ride (which is quite a feat for a "Large" level, considering my awful attention span these days!). The level was definitely worth the long wait :D

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

I also took the time to write down any issues I noticed while I played, in case you're interested in polishing this level even more:

Spoiler: Bugs and UX feedback (click to show/hide)

Not much more to say, except that you definitely earned this :hiddenstar: from me. Thank you and congratulations on a superb job! ;)
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: pfrangip on March 03, 2017, 19:52:14
Just finished! Great stuff! This is probably the best "classic Knytt" story we've seen in a long time. I really appreciated the mix of original and new tilesets, the open feel of the world, and that atmospheric music just fit perfectly. It felt very "Knytt" without being the same old stuff.


Levels like these are why I keep playing (and making) Knytt Stories. Just such an enjoyable experience.  :)
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: zhynna on March 03, 2017, 23:31:40
One of the best KS levels I played. Also cool boss!
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: Talps on March 04, 2017, 01:33:46
Unlike everyone else I seem to be hating the boss which has me completely stuck.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

On a less negative note, that opening gave me chills, it was so good.

And I can't help but notice that you put me in a position to help distract Juni so that ghost can kill her. Did you... make me a villain?

EDIT:
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FINAL EDIT:
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FINAL FINAL EDIT:
I did like the references. And Veg, I got 26 golden creatures! You lose! Good day sir!
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on March 04, 2017, 01:53:54
Spoiler: @Talps (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: Talps on March 04, 2017, 02:19:59
Well I avoided reading any spoilers on here before I played but yeah, looks like we hit the same bug.


'All 25 golden creatures'? Hah! Would thou wert clean enough to spit upon!

:P
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: scratskinner on March 04, 2017, 03:44:32
Spoiler: bugs and whatnot (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: @ Vegetal (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: coupla questions (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on March 04, 2017, 04:08:09
Spoiler: Black sprite bug (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: @Talps (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: @scratskinner (click to show/hide)

Man, I should really get some sleep...
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: ixMarcel on March 04, 2017, 09:29:18
Thanks everyone for feedback! I'm going to fix the issues as soon as I can. In the meantime, use Vegetal Gibber's advice or go up and down the slope between Yrra Swamp and Starlight Peak.

Spoiler: @Talps (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: Talps on March 04, 2017, 10:05:17
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

I was a little disappointed that upon reloading my finished save I couldn't view my collection screen or to back to see the other end.
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: scratskinner on March 04, 2017, 11:03:56
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on March 04, 2017, 14:50:09

Also, I noticed a typo in the first screen of the credits cutscene (Scene1.png - "stories" is misspelled as "sotires"). Not sure if this has been already reported, though.
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: ixMarcel on March 04, 2017, 21:30:37
OK, I've updated the level and fixed the bugs. Everyoby who's played the day one edition - sorry for the inconvenience!

Changelog:
   •  Fixed voids and SGEs
   •  The "permanent dark silhouette" bug is fixed
   •  You can now actually access the good ending
   •  Added Talps mode: You cannot see Juni for the duration of the boss battle Added an unsatisfying easter-egg hidden screen (x1003y1002 in the editor)
   •  Hold ↓ key at the "bad-end epilogue screen" to be teleported to the Defend/Attack screen (so you can see the good ending - it's really nothing special, but gives you a sense of closure instead of a cliffhanger)

Spoiler: @scratskinner (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: BanderAnder on March 08, 2017, 00:44:18
Super nice level!

Finished it in two sessions. No bugs, everything just flowed along nicely.
I enjoyed the challenges and the moody dark areas the most!
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Nice work!
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: cybershaman on March 25, 2017, 08:50:37
I only just recently started playing Knytt stories, and have been binge-playing a ton of different stories by a ton a different designers. That being said, I think this one is my favorite so far! Very challenging without feeling totally impossible. I think my favorite part was the
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
=) I also very much enjoyed the
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Caught 23/25 (or is it 26?) golden creatures =D I loved this level so much I joined this forum just to post this =P
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: ixMarcel on March 25, 2017, 11:55:39
I'm glad you enjoyed the level so much, cybershaman ;). Welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: mechamind on March 26, 2017, 03:16:59
I'd easily believe that there are 26.

After my moment in the clouds, I also believe one more thing for all those times I got "exploded" - not everything in KS+ should be yellow. :oops:
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: SilasMann on May 25, 2017, 07:37:46
I love everything about this level. All of the areas of the game mesh together so perfectly! The backgrounds looked very nice. The end boss reminded me of Undertale, which seems to be the style you were going for. Great job overall.

At x1009y998, if you go up at x1y0 you end up in a wallswim. whoops 2 month old bump sorry
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Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: ixMarcel on May 25, 2017, 15:09:03
Thank you for your kind words!

Now about that area you've found... It was supposed to be a fun message for people who got there using cheats. And you got there without them! That's incredible!  :nuts:
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: cman on June 10, 2017, 13:31:17
The level is amazing! but quite challenging sometimes.
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on June 10, 2017, 14:57:15
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: cman on June 11, 2017, 19:52:32
Yes! finally I could beat it. I followed your advice and after a few more attempts it was done :) Thanks!

Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: Purple Ink on July 25, 2017, 12:14:08
Finally getting around to commenting ... Great level. Really like it. Especially the unique "waiting room" and boss fight!
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: GrayFace on August 08, 2017, 13:07:49
Awesome level!!

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

I tried to recreate the turn-based system in Knytt Stories
That's a task best fit for KS Ex, there anything's possible :)
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: GrayFace on September 14, 2017, 01:37:49
I replayed the level, with the main goal to see Shadowlands as they should be seen. It's crazy how much my monitor devours dark colors with the settings I use! Beautiful place!
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Saving Thalanill [KS+] [Epic/Scenic] [Large] [Normal/Hard]
Post by: ixMarcel on September 14, 2017, 16:35:22
@GrayFace I'm glad you enjoyed it! I tried my best to balance the looks/gameplay/challenge in each area, but when designing the Shadowlands, Waiting Room, Starlight Peak and Yrra Swamp I put the most effort to making the aesthetics distinct and memorable.