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Title: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam
Post by: sergiocornaga on March 22, 2016, 15:24:20
Knytt Swapsies is a two-week event I'm running over at Glorious Trainwrecks (http://www.glorioustrainwrecks.com/node/10098). The basic idea is that participants make half a level during the first week, then the levels get shuffled around and everyone finishes everyone else's levels during the second week.

The first week occurred Saturday 26th March until Saturday 2nd April. Week 2 has now begun!
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (starts this weekend)
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on March 22, 2016, 16:32:12
Sounds like a fun idea! The fact that this isn't a one/two day event makes it a lot easier for me to participate :D
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (starts this weekend)
Post by: ixMarcel on March 22, 2016, 18:28:43
Sounds great! Where do I sign up? (Seriously, do I have to register on that site or something?)

How big should a half-finished level be? Are there any rules?
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (starts this weekend)
Post by: Fubaka on March 22, 2016, 18:56:34
I'll play along.  :)

However, is it against the rules to tweak the first half that I'd be receiving, or offer tips to the person who'll be editing my first half?
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (starts this weekend)
Post by: sergiocornaga on March 23, 2016, 03:08:24
Sounds like a fun idea! The fact that this isn't a one/two day event makes it a lot easier for me to participate :D

That's good to hear.

Sounds great! Where do I sign up? (Seriously, do I have to register on that site or something?)

It might be a good idea to! Once you're signed in, there's a spot to sign up officially on the event page, but it's not compulsory. There might be ways around registering if you were really opposed to making an account, but given that Glorious Trainwrecks has been hosting Knytt Stories related events for 6 years now it will probably pay off.

How big should a half-finished level be? Are there any rules?

Any size you want, but smaller is probably better. A week is just a convenient time period, don't feel like you even have to use it all. The only real rule is that if you submit the first half of a level, you've committed to finishing the second half of someone else's... other than that, I thought I'd leave things relaxed and see what happens, since this whole idea is something of an experiment.

However, is it against the rules to tweak the first half that I'd be receiving, or offer tips to the person who'll be editing my first half?

Both of those sound OK to me. As the second participant is basically in charge of completing the level, they may want it to be in a cohesive, polished state that would benefit from tweaking existing content. Additionally, the ways in which a level can be half-finished might vary since they are open to some interpretation: a level could be playable from start to finish but lack any story content or graphical embellishments, in which case editing existing work would be unavoidable. You could reach out to the author of the first half and ask permission if you really wanted to.

Offering tips could be a good idea, especially if your work includes any complex scripting that could daunt the recipient. Direct contribution to your original level during the second week is discouraged, but after that what happens to the level is up to its authors.
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (starts this weekend)
Post by: Ultigonio on March 23, 2016, 23:20:55
Sounds great!  I'll likely make my first half in a vanilla KS compatible form, but then whatever my second half is, I'll change into KS+.  :P2
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (starts this weekend)
Post by: pfrangip on March 25, 2016, 11:43:11
I am definitely interested in this! Sounds like a lot of fun... please count me in! (I have a GT account and will sign up for this event.)
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (starts, like, now)
Post by: sergiocornaga on March 25, 2016, 14:17:33
Sounds great!  I'll likely make my first half in a vanilla KS compatible form, but then whatever my second half is, I'll change into KS+.  :P2

Nice approach!

I am definitely interested in this! Sounds like a lot of fun... please count me in! (I have a GT account and will sign up for this event.)

Glad to hear it!

It's Saturday in New Zealand now. Everyone participating, feel free to start working on stuff!
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (starts, like, now)
Post by: StraightFlame on March 25, 2016, 14:55:46
Since i'm almost done with that thing i'm supposed to be doing, i'll go work on that a bit more today and wait for the "Upcoming Events" thingy to count down.
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (starts, like, now)
Post by: sergiocornaga on March 26, 2016, 10:03:51
Since i'm almost done with that thing i'm supposed to be doing, i'll go work on that a bit more today and wait for the "Upcoming Events" thingy to count down.

That's now happened and the event has started slightly more officially! But even if you wanted to start a bit later, that's fine too.
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (on now!)
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on March 30, 2016, 16:08:02
Hate to say this, but I'm afraid I have to bail out (again... :( ). It doesn't seem I'm going to have a chance to get anything KS-related done for a few weeks. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (on now!)
Post by: Fubaka on March 31, 2016, 10:05:45
This is going to sound utterly bizarre but...

My level has become far too complex and personal for this fun little event. I think I'm gonna have to make a new level if I still want to be part of this jam. I can't possibly expect someone else to be able to match the mood and feel of the level that I've spent the last five days tirelessly working on.

The level I have now will become a new major release for me, oddly enough. I think I will make a preview for it after this jam has concluded.
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (on now!)
Post by: ixMarcel on March 31, 2016, 13:18:45
I think I'm gonna have to make a new level if I still want to be part of this jam.

Please do. I still hope this event is going to produce some fun levels, the more of us the merrier!
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (on now!)
Post by: Fubaka on April 01, 2016, 03:14:30
Alright. I have something more manageable as a level half pretty much done now. I'll hold on to it until Saturday, in case I need to make any more adjustments.

My level is a half in an almost literal sense of the word.  ;)
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (on now!)
Post by: pfrangip on April 02, 2016, 04:31:14
I hope whoever gets to finish POWERHOUSE has as much fun completing it as I had starting it.  :)
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (on now!)
Post by: Healy on April 02, 2016, 05:22:42
Question: When exactly is the deadline on Saturday? 12:01 GMT, 11:59 GMT, maybe we're using some other time zone?
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (on now!)
Post by: pfrangip on April 02, 2016, 06:25:16
Question: When exactly is the deadline on Saturday? 12:01 GMT, 11:59 GMT, maybe we're using some other time zone?

Start: 03/26/2016 - 01:00
End: 04/02/2016 - 23:00
Timezone: Etc/GMT-7

Good luck, Healy!
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (on now!)
Post by: sergiocornaga on April 02, 2016, 06:30:24
Question: When exactly is the deadline on Saturday? 12:01 GMT, 11:59 GMT, maybe we're using some other time zone?

Start: 03/26/2016 - 01:00
End: 04/02/2016 - 23:00
Timezone: Etc/GMT-7

Yeah, this is the deadline I had in mind, though I'm having a little difficulty wrapping my head around the timezone (especially since daylight savings time ends a few hours from now in my country) But I think it should be about 25 hours from now? I set up a countdown timer (https://countingdownto.com/countdown/levels-due-countdown-clock), let me know if I made any mistakes.
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (on now!)
Post by: sergiocornaga on April 03, 2016, 06:06:15
Levels for part one are due in about an hour, after which I'll send out allocations for part two! It seems like everyone's submitted now, but I figured I'd give a heads up anyway. Beautiful work so far, y'all!
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (on now!)
Post by: sergiocornaga on April 03, 2016, 09:04:42
Allocations have now been sent out via PMs on Glorious Trainwrecks!
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (on now!)
Post by: pfrangip on April 03, 2016, 14:18:26
Just want to say that, after week one, i really feel like this was such a great idea for an event. :)

I've been looking forward to getting my level half for the past few days, and I'm really looking forward to seeing all the fun finished products! :)
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (on now!)
Post by: Fubaka on April 07, 2016, 13:30:58
hugs and I break the tape!

http://nifflas.lpchip.nl/index.php?topic=6732.0
Title: Re: Knytt Swapsies! A collaborative level-making jam (on now!)
Post by: pfrangip on April 13, 2016, 02:19:23
So should I still be holding out hope for levels completed (2nd half) by Healy and Sergio? 'Cuz I am!  :D