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Title: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on April 24, 2009, 06:38:27

StaticRomantic sent me a message saying this level is deserving of debate and asked if I was going to post it here.
I wasn't, but I'm a nice guy so I can comply.
And by 'comply' I mean copy/paste stuff from the old forum:

Teenhmifnoeafgil (http://www.mediafire.com/?fnlyogu0mim).

This level was made for "Knytt Stories 1.0.4". Due to the greater quality of shifts in the more recent version(s), playing this level in said recent version(s) will cause certain parts of the level to go by more quickly than originally intended.

So I guess, in order to experience the level as it was originally intended, you can play it with the older version of Knytt Stories. Or you could play it in the newer version and see how ridiculous a certain part can be.
If you get there, yeah. It'll be obvious.

Yes.
I'm sort of... taking a break, again, from Knytt Stories. I have been working on a level on a whenever-I-feel-like-it schedule, so don't expect stuff from me anytime soon.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Evil on April 24, 2009, 06:44:49

I love it!  :nuts:

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: StaticRomantic on April 24, 2009, 06:46:18

Erm... thanks for the mention.  :oops:
This level just caught my attention a while back and I thought a lot more people should play it  :^^:.
It's pretty interesting. Reminds me a lot of... Neutral Milk Hotel.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

In the way that it feels like an acid trip.

And it has an astonishing amount of screens.
Brilliant level. Very unique.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 24, 2009, 07:39:49

Quote from: KG on April 24, 2009, 06:38:27

This level was made for "Knytt Stories 1.0.4". Due to the greater quality of shifts in the more recent version(s), playing this level in said recent version(s) will cause certain parts of the level to go by more quickly than originally intended.

So I guess, in order to experience the level as it was originally intended, you can play it with the older version of Knytt Stories. Or you could play it in the newer version and see how ridiculous a certain part can be.
If you get there, yeah. It'll be obvious.

I'm curious which part. Is it the

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

final boss?

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on April 24, 2009, 08:02:36

Quote from: Purple Pineapple on April 24, 2009, 07:39:49

Is it the

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

final boss?

Yes.

Quote from: StaticRomantic on April 24, 2009, 06:46:18

Brilliant level. Very unique.

And thank you.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: 4a on April 24, 2009, 16:44:13

My faaaavorite level! :O :O :O
The screenshots are so funny!
It's too bad about the too-fast shifts thing, though.

I can't wait for whatever your next level is gonna be. :D

Also I think it's funny how StaticRomantic is bolded and underlined.  X)

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: JC Grim the 'crete reaper on April 24, 2009, 23:14:08

Honestly, probably one of my favorite things in this is the music. I love the music of this level...

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Strange Darkness on April 25, 2009, 06:27:35

Quote from: JC Grim the 'crete reaper on April 24, 2009, 23:14:08

Honestly, probably one of my favorite things in this is the music. I love the music of this level...

Ditto..the music made it sooo.....   ...   ..  .      .              .
well anyway this level is in my top5 because of how alienating it is, makes you feel out of place so quick ( i like those crazy monsters  :crazy:)
so when you do make a level  i will be looking foward to it  ;)

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 25, 2009, 07:14:57

This reminded me... I need to retry too much soda.

Yeah, that was offtopic.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: farik on April 25, 2009, 15:56:47

i never could figure out how to translate the dialogue

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Teper on April 25, 2009, 18:23:19

Quote from: farik on April 25, 2009, 15:56:47

i never could figure out how to translate the dialogue

Same for me, and it's a shame, cause the level is great

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Evil on April 25, 2009, 19:50:14

The words are just scrambled around.  :)

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: googoogjoob on April 25, 2009, 19:53:35

They're scrambled in a very specific way. I know I can't link to the old forum, where KG posted a translation dealy, but I can quote it. (Sort of.)

Spoiler: Quoted from old forum. (click to show/hide)

Take a sentence.

Is_tn_ _eane ehab. wc_n _te oe s

Pay particular attention to the underscores and the spaces. Let the spaces separate 'words'.
Now place the words in a column formation.

Is_tn_
_eane
ehab.
wc_n
_te
oe
s

From there, it's just a matter of reading at an angle, as if it should be read like this.

136.
259
48
7

Where each letter is read in numerical order.
The sentence would translate to this.

I_see_what_cannot_be_seen.

That should help.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on April 25, 2009, 20:36:33

Iggyzor made a notepad document in which there are translations of almost all of the text:

http://www.mediafire.com/?mqzmk4gniiz

Some bits he kind of messed up on (either by making typographical errors or reading wrong) and some bits I messed up on because I don't know why.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Strange Darkness on April 26, 2009, 02:12:49

Quote from: KG on April 25, 2009, 20:36:33

Iggyzor made a notepad document in which there are translations of almost all of the text:

http://www.mediafire.com/?mqzmk4gniiz

Some bits he kind of messed up on (either by making typographical errors or reading wrong) and some bits I messed up on because I don't know why.

Yeah i think there was some bit that said, i quote "i rather have buffalo diahrea in my ear" ...

..

.

yeah... that was one of the wierd things  :crazy:

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on April 26, 2009, 21:24:49

Quote from: Strange Darkness on April 26, 2009, 02:12:49

Yeah i think there was some bit that said, i quote "i rather have buffalo diahrea in my ear" ...

That's a reference to something, actually. There are quite a few random references to things in the level.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: 4a on April 28, 2009, 20:36:40

Quote from: KG on April 25, 2009, 20:36:33

Iggyzor made a notepad document in which there are translations of almost all of the text...

I dunno about other people, but I feel like knowing what everyone's saying kind of ruins the "magic" of the weirdness happening. ._.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: StaticRomantic on April 29, 2009, 07:00:09

Quote from: 4a on April 28, 2009, 20:36:40

Quote from: KG on April 25, 2009, 20:36:33

Iggyzor made a notepad document in which there are translations of almost all of the text...

I dunno about other people, but I feel like knowing what everyone's saying kind of ruins the "magic" of the weirdness happening. ._.

I agree. Although it is fun trying to find it out. I'm trying to avoid using the translations  O_o
(I kind of gave up.)

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: 4a on April 29, 2009, 15:54:05

Quote from: StaticRomantic on April 29, 2009, 07:00:09

Quote from: 4a on April 28, 2009, 20:36:40

I dunno about other people, but I feel like knowing what everyone's saying kind of ruins the "magic" of the weirdness happening. ._.

I agree. Although it is fun trying to find it out. I'm trying to avoid using the translations  O_o
(I kind of gave up.)

I just listen to the talking. Sometimes it kind of sounds like words! :O
Usually it makes me think of some kind of alien language though.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Razzorman on April 29, 2009, 16:28:39

Quote from: KG on April 26, 2009, 21:24:49

Quote from: Strange Darkness on April 26, 2009, 02:12:49

Yeah i think there was some bit that said, i quote "i rather have buffalo diahrea in my ear" ...

That's a reference to something, actually. There are quite a few random references to things in the level.

AVGN maybe?

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: victor12 on April 29, 2009, 16:34:28

 O_o23,5 MB?!?!?!? This must be huge!

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on April 30, 2009, 06:38:57

Quote from: Razzorman on April 29, 2009, 16:28:39

AVGN maybe?

Yes.

Quote from: victor12 on April 29, 2009, 16:34:28

O_o23,5 MB?!?!?!? This must be huge!

I've downloaded way bigger (since people don't know how to listen to googoogjoob and compress/make their music lower quality/whatever), but it is over 1100 screens.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: victor12 on May 03, 2009, 09:51:51

Quote from: victor12 on April 29, 2009, 16:34:28

O_o23,5 MB?!?!?!? This must be huge!

Quote

I've downloaded way bigger (since people don't know how to listen to googoogjoob and compress/make their music lower quality/whatever), but it is over 1100 screens.

 :shocked:

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: 4a on May 12, 2009, 17:06:46

Random things I noticed while replaying this. :O

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

There's an ending with Biggt in it! I totally didn't think of going there again. I guess I never noticed him in the credits before, but is he public domain or whatever?
Also noticed something weird in the editor and found another ending that's apparently really obscure with the purple key, but that one I don't understand at all.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Dj Gopher on May 14, 2009, 07:08:19

Quote from: StaticRomantic on April 24, 2009, 06:46:18

Erm... thanks for the mention.  :oops:
This level just caught my attention a while back and I thought a lot more people should play it  :^^:.
It's pretty interesting. Reminds me a lot of... Neutral Milk Hotel.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

In the way that it feels like an acid trip.

And it has an astonishing amount of screens.
Brilliant level. Very unique.

And why would you know this feeling? :P

love the level though :D

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Klämrisk on May 15, 2009, 17:51:29

Is there actually a way to

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

beat the boss' singularity spell?

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: 4a on May 15, 2009, 18:04:26

Quote from: Kl?mrisk on May 15, 2009, 17:51:29

Is there actually a way to

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

beat the boss' singularity spell?

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Just keep running all the way left or all the way right? That one never gave me trouble, but if that doesn't help you could try jumping.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Ghost on May 31, 2009, 07:26:47

Quote from: KG on April 30, 2009, 06:38:57

I've downloaded way bigger (since people don't know how to listen to googoogjoob and compress/make their music lower quality/whatever), but it is over 1100 screens.

It's over ONE THOU-Not going there.

Great level. Do tell me once you've discovered the source of the one song.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on May 31, 2009, 07:31:28

Quote from: Ghost on May 31, 2009, 07:26:47

Great level. Do tell me once you've discovered the source of the one song.

It's that unique battle music when you fight Cal and Brina (before you fight Calbrina) in Final Fantasy 4--however it's been mangled a bit via Audacity.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Bored2death on June 07, 2009, 04:32:43

That... was amazing. Most of those 1100+ screens were the

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Final boss, the best boss I have ever faced (on Knytt stories), reminded me a little of Final Fantasy bosses)

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Pumpkinbot on June 07, 2009, 08:08:49

Spoiler: My thoughts on this game (click to show/hide)

When I first played this, I thought I could sum it up in one word: "lolwut?" I thought it was just completely random and not thought out.
Now that I've played it all the way through, I know it was very thought out! It is just pure awesome. I also like the Isnoct and Goog cameos. :D Anyway, the actual ending of the game is pretty clever. I talked to the heart before getting a lot of power-ups, and talked to the fake Juni and died. I was like, "WTF? D:" and then got all the power-ups and thought, "...That's it? A small environmental is what it is. :(" Then, I cheated and looked through the editor (clever, but you can cheat...

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

click "Go To" and click "Starting Position"

) and got to the heart area, and thought, "Oh, yeaaaahhhh. :D" I then proceeded to get all the endings. The boss was the most elaborate and boss-like boss I've ever seen in a Knytt Stories game. I could barely tell it was made up of shifts! It was AMAZING!
To sum it up: On GaiaOnline, I got a rare item purely by chance. I told one of my friends, saying, "I can haz awesomeness nao?" He said...

Quote from: Fireyblaze000

----------------------------------------------------------
Awesomeness Achieved - Over 9000 Gamer Points
----------------------------------------------------------


When you get something that is greater than or equal to the amount of gold I have, tell me. You get awesomeness since that is probably rare, but you have not received Super Mega Awesome Epicness Supreme Omega. (Copyright)

You, sir, have acheived Super Mega Awesome Epicness Supreme Omega^(Copyright). This is seriously the best game I've ever played. Better than Don't Eat the Mushroom, Gaia, or anything else. You, sir, win.

Also, I'm surprised the real answer to life isn't in there. [offtopic] Do you want to know what it is? Then PM me. [/offtopic]

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Purple Pineapple on June 07, 2009, 19:25:11

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on June 07, 2009, 08:08:49

(clever, but you can cheat...

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

click "Go To" and click "Starting Position"

)

Why should that be in a spoiler?

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Squeegy on June 07, 2009, 20:06:30

Damnit, that jump

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

after you get the umbrella

is really hard.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Pumpkinbot on June 07, 2009, 21:11:59

Quote from: Purple Pineapple on June 07, 2009, 19:25:11

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on June 07, 2009, 08:08:49

(clever, but you can cheat...

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

click "Go To" and click "Starting Position"

)

Why should that be in a spoiler?

Because maybe not everybody wants to cheat or be tempted to cheat. :P

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Purple Pineapple on June 07, 2009, 23:45:40

But that's not cheating in any sence I'm familiar with.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: TechnoGeek on June 17, 2009, 03:22:39

Quote from: 4a on April 29, 2009, 15:54:05

Quote from: StaticRomantic on April 29, 2009, 07:00:09

Quote from: 4a on April 28, 2009, 20:36:40

I dunno about other people, but I feel like knowing what everyone's saying kind of ruins the "magic" of the weirdness happening. ._.

I agree. Although it is fun trying to find it out. I'm trying to avoid using the translations  O_o
(I kind of gave up.)

I just listen to the talking. Sometimes it kind of sounds like words! :O
Usually it makes me think of some kind of alien language though.

actually, those are voice-overs that are very muffled and mangled, but knowing the translation will confirm any suspicions someone may have.

about editing (i also couldn't find the semi-secret half or the boss), i manually clicked over there...i could have saved a lot of time X-P

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on June 17, 2009, 23:19:09

Oh, I didn't even realize people were still commenting on this.
Thank you "Pumpkinbot" and "Bored2death" for your praise. It did take a lot of work to make (probably a given, considering how many screens there were to make).

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Regarding the "real meaning of life" thing, I really hope you aren't talking about Douglas Adams' affectionately but irritatingly continuously quoted number 42 as being the meaning of life--because, not only does it not make sense in context (42 is the answer to the "Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything", not the meaning of life or the meaning of anything for that matter), it does not make sense out of context either.
As random and silly as the level evidently is, it was actually meant to hold meaning to me. And the number 42 does not hold meaning to me, that's Douglas Adams' gig.
But if it's something else, good show.

And the "cheating" thing in the editor I don't consider cheating either. I just did that one part because I was bored. Really, a lot of what I do is due to boredom.
The voices actually do represent what is being said. It's not that they were muffled, exactly, it's just that I can to some degree manipulate my voice to sound like that. Yeah all the voices are just me.
And Isnoct, I don't get your comment.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: googoogjoob on June 18, 2009, 00:53:00

Quote from: KG on June 17, 2009, 23:19:09

And Isnoct, I don't get your comment.

See this (http://www.yellow5.com/pokey/archive/index160.html).

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on June 18, 2009, 01:12:40

Quote from: googoogjoob on June 18, 2009, 00:53:00

Quote from: KG on June 17, 2009, 23:19:09

And Isnoct, I don't get your comment.

See this (http://www.yellow5.com/pokey/archive/index160.html).

Oh yeah you showed me that.

...but I still don't get his comment.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: JC Grim the 'crete reaper on June 18, 2009, 04:31:11

Quote from: KG on June 18, 2009, 01:12:40

Quote from: googoogjoob on June 18, 2009, 00:53:00

Quote from: KG on June 17, 2009, 23:19:09

And Isnoct, I don't get your comment.

See this (http://www.yellow5.com/pokey/archive/index160.html).

Oh yeah you showed me that.

...but I still don't get his comment.

Nor do I... I feel like we're getting left out on some big, secret internet pun...

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: googoogjoob on June 18, 2009, 04:32:14

I'm pretty sure it's just a non sequitur.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: JC Grim the 'crete reaper on June 18, 2009, 04:37:24

Quote from: googoogjoob on June 18, 2009, 04:32:14

I'm pretty sure it's just a non sequitur.

Ahh, Humor to confuse. I understand.  8)

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Pumpkinbot on June 18, 2009, 18:16:03

Quote from: KG on June 17, 2009, 23:19:09

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Regarding the "real meaning of life" thing, I really hope you aren't talking about Douglas Adams' affectionately but irritatingly continuously quoted number 42 as being the meaning of life--because, not only does it not make sense in context (42 is the answer to the "Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything", not the meaning of life or the meaning of anything for that matter), it does not make sense out of context either.
As random and silly as the level evidently is, it was actually meant to hold meaning to me. And the number 42 does not hold meaning to me, that's Douglas Adams' gig.
But if it's something else, good show.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

X) Well, I do know something. Douglas Adams told one of his friends, an actor, "why exactly 42." His friend said it was amazing and "made sense once you think hard about it." A recurring theme in H2G2 is "DON'T PANIC!" Somehow, I think 42 must translate into DON'T PANIC! because, if you panic, things rarely turn out right. If you don't, you can think clearly. See? :D

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: googoogjoob on June 18, 2009, 18:26:19

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on June 18, 2009, 18:16:03

Quote from: KG on June 17, 2009, 23:19:09

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Regarding the "real meaning of life" thing, I really hope you aren't talking about Douglas Adams' affectionately but irritatingly continuously quoted number 42 as being the meaning of life--because, not only does it not make sense in context (42 is the answer to the "Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything", not the meaning of life or the meaning of anything for that matter), it does not make sense out of context either.
As random and silly as the level evidently is, it was actually meant to hold meaning to me. And the number 42 does not hold meaning to me, that's Douglas Adams' gig.
But if it's something else, good show.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

X) Well, I do know something. Douglas Adams told one of his friends, an actor, "why exactly 42." His friend said it was amazing and "made sense once you think hard about it." A recurring theme in H2G2 is "DON'T PANIC!" Somehow, I think 42 must translate into DON'T PANIC! because, if you panic, things rarely turn out right. If you don't, you can think clearly. See? :D

No. Just no.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on June 18, 2009, 20:47:54

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on June 18, 2009, 18:16:03

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

X) Well, I do know something. Douglas Adams told one of his friends, an actor, "why exactly 42." His friend said it was amazing and "made sense once you think hard about it." A recurring theme in H2G2 is "DON'T PANIC!" Somehow, I think 42 must translate into DON'T PANIC! because, if you panic, things rarely turn out right. If you don't, you can think clearly. See? :D

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

It might help to consider that the two have nothing to do with each other. Disregarding the fact that panic is a byproduct of fear, which is in many cases an important and necessary instinct, I believe Douglas Adams himself said that 42 was a number he had chosen at a whim (if not, oh well my memory is wrong). Also, considering a question in which the answer could presumably be 42, the same question would unlikely be answered with "don't panic".
This is not on the topic anyway. I like Douglas Adams' books, but this obsession with the number 42 has become a little annoying to me in the past year.
Maybe a meaning of life could be not to panic. Sure, it's not much of a meaning, but if you got the "real" ending in Teenhmifnoeafgil, you might as well say it is if it really makes that much sense to you.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Pick Yer Poison on June 18, 2009, 21:17:20

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on June 18, 2009, 18:16:03

Quote from: KG on June 17, 2009, 23:19:09

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Regarding the "real meaning of life" thing, I really hope you aren't talking about Douglas Adams' affectionately but irritatingly continuously quoted number 42 as being the meaning of life--because, not only does it not make sense in context (42 is the answer to the "Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything", not the meaning of life or the meaning of anything for that matter), it does not make sense out of context either.
As random and silly as the level evidently is, it was actually meant to hold meaning to me. And the number 42 does not hold meaning to me, that's Douglas Adams' gig.
But if it's something else, good show.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

X) Well, I do know something. Douglas Adams told one of his friends, an actor, "why exactly 42." His friend said it was amazing and "made sense once you think hard about it." A recurring theme in H2G2 is "DON'T PANIC!" Somehow, I think 42 must translate into DON'T PANIC! because, if you panic, things rarely turn out right. If you don't, you can think clearly. See? :D

Actually, IIRC, the real reason he picked 42 was because he wanted the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything to be "the most normal number" he could think of. He also said that "it obviously had to be an even number." Of course, don't take this for 100% true (since I'm not positive), but I think that's how it happened.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Pumpkinbot on June 19, 2009, 08:20:10

Quote from: pick yer poison on June 18, 2009, 21:17:20

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on June 18, 2009, 18:16:03

Quote from: KG on June 17, 2009, 23:19:09

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Regarding the "real meaning of life" thing, I really hope you aren't talking about Douglas Adams' affectionately but irritatingly continuously quoted number 42 as being the meaning of life--because, not only does it not make sense in context (42 is the answer to the "Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything", not the meaning of life or the meaning of anything for that matter), it does not make sense out of context either.
As random and silly as the level evidently is, it was actually meant to hold meaning to me. And the number 42 does not hold meaning to me, that's Douglas Adams' gig.
But if it's something else, good show.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

X) Well, I do know something. Douglas Adams told one of his friends, an actor, "why exactly 42." His friend said it was amazing and "made sense once you think hard about it." A recurring theme in H2G2 is "DON'T PANIC!" Somehow, I think 42 must translate into DON'T PANIC! because, if you panic, things rarely turn out right. If you don't, you can think clearly. See? :D

Actually, IIRC, the real reason he picked 42 was because he wanted the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything to be "the most normal number" he could think of. He also said that "it obviously had to be an even number." Of course, don't take this for 100% true (since I'm not positive), but I think that's how it happened.

Aaaannnnddd....look here. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7283155.stm) He told Stephen Fry "why exactly 42." He had a reason, he just doesn't want to tell us. ;A; Anyway, we're getting off-topic. If you want to continue this, KG, feel free to PM me.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Evil on June 24, 2009, 22:43:03

What does the title of this game translate to?

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Pumpkinbot on June 25, 2009, 02:22:34

Quote from: Evil on June 24, 2009, 22:43:03

What does the title of this game translate to?

Absoluely nothing. :D I think it's just gobbledygook.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: googoogjoob on June 25, 2009, 02:41:20

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on June 25, 2009, 02:22:34

Quote from: Evil on June 24, 2009, 22:43:03

What does the title of this game translate to?

Absoluely nothing. :D I think it's just gobbledygook.

Uh. If you've paid attention through this topic, you'd be able to figure out that it means

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

The Meaning of Life.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: StaticRomantic on June 25, 2009, 21:50:57

Quoting Fit the Seventh of the radio series, on Christmas Eve, 1978:
   Narrator: There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.

Spoiler: 42 (click to show/hide)

Douglas Adams said himself in an interview that the number 42 was "a joke":
"The answer to this is very simple. It was a joke. It had to be a number, an ordinary, smallish number, and I chose that one. Binary representations, base thirteen, Tibetan monks are all complete nonsense. I sat at my desk, stared into the garden and thought '42 will do.' I typed it out. End of story."

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Pumpkinbot on June 26, 2009, 00:32:34

@ Goog: EDIT:

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

The Meaning of Life scrambled up like that would be...oh, hey, I guess it is. But it would actually be "Teen_ hmif _noe a_f gi l" ;)

@ StaticRomantic: He told Stephen Fry "why exactly 42". Check here. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7283155.stm)

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: gorrillateef on November 08, 2009, 23:11:54

I tried playing it with the old KS, and it was incompatible. Also, it uses flags, which, 1.04 did not support.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Pumpkinbot on November 08, 2009, 23:23:29

Quote from: gorrillateef on November 08, 2009, 23:11:54

I tried playing it with the old KS, and it was incompatible. Also, it uses flags, which, 1.04 did not support.

I played it with normal Knytt Stories and it worked for me. O-o

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: gorrillateef on November 09, 2009, 00:53:54

It works on the current (1.2.1) KS. Whatever. I loved the game, and I didn't really notice if the shifts were too fast. They seemed fine.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

The boss was AMAZING. It was so well thought out, and each of the attacks was hard but not impossible. Great job.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: deadly_feather on December 05, 2009, 02:55:13

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on June 07, 2009, 21:11:59

Quote from: Purple Pineapple on June 07, 2009, 19:25:11

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on June 07, 2009, 08:08:49

(clever, but you can cheat...

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

click "Go To" and click "Starting Position"

)

Why should that be in a spoiler?

Because maybe not everybody wants to cheat or be tempted to cheat. :P

Quote from: Squeegy on June 07, 2009, 20:06:30

Damnit, that jump

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

after you get the umbrella

is really hard.

Here's what I did: I used the umbrella and floated right.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Exp HP on December 05, 2009, 09:03:05

Woah. This started out slow, but by the end (which I reached after skipping some early parts via the editor because it's too damn confusing to navigate), I was thoroughly satisfied.

A LOT of work clearly was put into this level. Just looking at the size of it it in the editor absolutely blows my mind.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: hagmo on January 23, 2010, 16:44:51

I registered here just so I could comment on this. I take it the boss can only be beaten if you use an earlier version of KS? Either that, or the boss can only be beaten if you're a better player than I am.

Best KS level I've ever played so far, although I don't understand most of it. I suppose that was sort of the point. Great work nonetheless, KG.

EDIT: Oops, I beat it. Again, great level.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

While the "bulk" of the level offered a lot of things to consider and left most to speculation, the ending (that I assume is the "proper" one) was surprisingly... plain? Probably not the right word to use, sorry I'm not a native speaker. I would have liked something more obscure, enigmatic. Maybe be it's supposed to reward the player with something sensical for a change. :P Or perhaps I'm just missing the point.

I love these things. Surreal is always good.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Sendy on January 23, 2010, 21:30:18

This has the best finale and ending in any KS level, the best use of shifts ever, and some excellent use not only of music, but sound in general. I just got a really good feeling from it, the sort you get from an epic videogame which can stand on it's own as art.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: SingingSurger on February 03, 2010, 23:46:12

Whoa. The music was awesome. The boot was awesome. The Juni was awesome. The EVERYTHING was awesome. I loved it. The text made you feel like you were in a world of sadness, and desolation. The story made me feel like I was something else, and everything was different from everything else. It felt like I was in complete insanity. I felt scared, yet stupefied. I was amazed. I've found two of the endings, and can't find the final boss. The two I've discovered are odd, but cool. I love this level. I need to get this song on MP3.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Jigganis on February 11, 2010, 05:07:30

Nice use of the Chrono Cross theme. Really

I still wonder sometimes if maybe there's a better way to explore stuff like the meaning of life than with semi-random craziness, but until that is found, I guess this has got to be one of the pinnacles of such expression. At least, of that which is capable with video games.

In any case, none of those ideas at the core of this level were particularly new for me, but their execution was certainly wonderful. The entire first level (which I call "Stripeville") was appropriately mortifying and disorienting, as were the consecutive segments of the game. "Green Platformville" was even better. Seeking out and trying to find meanings as such was something I couldn't believe I hadn't seen before in some other game. That boss battle was terrific; hard and sometimes unfair, but terrific nonetheless, with a voluminous amount of creativity.

So then, KG, I salute you.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on March 18, 2010, 02:45:13

I approve of these recent comments that've been made after I stopped paying attention to this forum. Yes.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: GrayFace on March 24, 2010, 03:58:51

Wow. The boss is brilliant.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

What does Juni Kutera say?

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: grimwit on March 24, 2010, 22:50:44

Um...I played through this level a whil back and...um...

K, I donno if this is a spoiler or even how to use Spoiler tags, but I was wondering around the world folder for your sound effects and noticed a folder called "A secretary's Life"  If you pull "Secretary's Life" out of the level folder, it is, itself, a level.

9_9  Was that on purpose or was that a mistake?

I should probably download this level to see if it's still there.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Purple Pineapple on March 25, 2010, 00:14:55

Knowing KG (and how hard it would be to accidentally do that) I'd say it's a secret. As for spoilers, see the [faq].

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on March 31, 2010, 22:54:22

Quote from: Purple Pineapple on March 25, 2010, 00:14:55

Knowing KG (and how hard it would be to accidentally do that) I'd say it's a secret.

I really doubt you know me, good sir.

Anyway, I do not recall putting in a "secret level" in Teenhmifnoeafgil. For that matter, I've never heard of "A Secretary's Life".

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: yohji on March 31, 2010, 23:16:53

A Secretary's Life is indeed a level, but by SamiH, not KG. It's available at knyttlevels.com. Someone must have accidentally copied it into the sound folder, or something.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 01, 2010, 02:24:21

Quote from: KG on March 31, 2010, 22:54:22

Quote from: Purple Pineapple on March 25, 2010, 00:14:55

Knowing KG (and how hard it would be to accidentally do that) I'd say it's a secret.

I really doubt you know me, good sir.

Very well, I know your levels. I suppose you must have accidentally saved the knytt.bin there when you downloaded it or something. My bad.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: ElMirador on April 14, 2010, 05:17:55

The boss battle is so hard......
but amazing.

how many ends does this level have?...

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on April 14, 2010, 06:01:05

Quote from: ElMirador on April 14, 2010, 05:17:55

The boss battle is so hard......
but amazing.

how many ends does this level have?...

I believe it has 10.
But really, there's only one ending you want.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: ElMirador on April 14, 2010, 09:12:30

Quote from: KG on April 14, 2010, 06:01:05

Quote from: ElMirador on April 14, 2010, 05:17:55

The boss battle is so hard......
but amazing.

how many ends does this level have?...

I believe it has 10.
But really, there's only one ending you want.

Yeah.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

the meaning of life, right? XD

I've found 4 include this ending...seems long way to go:P

oh, another thing, the ending BGM(with vocal) sound awesome.
what's the name of it?

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on April 15, 2010, 02:03:08

Quote from: ElMirador on April 14, 2010, 09:12:30

oh, another thing, the ending BGM(with vocal) sound awesome.
what's the name of it?

"Radical Dreamers".

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: ElMirador on April 15, 2010, 03:13:02

Quote from: KG on April 15, 2010, 02:03:08

Quote from: ElMirador on April 14, 2010, 09:12:30

oh, another thing, the ending BGM(with vocal) sound awesome.
what's the name of it?

"Radical Dreamers".

Thank you very much~~XD

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: SingingSurger on April 22, 2010, 23:17:34

I don't know if anyone could, but could someone condense the song from the first part of the level (PurpleVille... maybe?), because it rocks so hard, I have been whistling it for months. Could someone please do it?

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on April 23, 2010, 01:57:31

Quote from: SingingSurger on April 22, 2010, 23:17:34

I don't know if anyone could, but could someone condense the song from the first part of the level (PurpleVille... maybe?), because it rocks so hard, I have been whistling it for months. Could someone please do it?

"Condense"? Do you mean make smaller or convert to some other format? Either way, this is easily accomplished with the program called Audacity.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: SingingSurger on April 28, 2010, 01:35:40

Whoops, IO forgot. Could someone condense or make it into an MP3 file? I simply must hear it again, as I can no longer play the level, because I can't download stuff on my new computer.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Jigganis on April 29, 2010, 01:49:29

Could this be called an absurdist game, you think?

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on April 29, 2010, 03:32:19

Quote from: SingingSurger on April 28, 2010, 01:35:40

Whoops, IO forgot. Could someone condense or make it into an MP3 file? I simply must hear it again, as I can no longer play the level, because I can't download stuff on my new computer.

If you can't download stuff on your computer, how can you hope to download anything someone converts to an MP3?

Quote from: Jigganis on April 29, 2010, 01:49:29

Could this be called an absurdist game, you think?

Sure. I am rather absurdist myself.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: SingingSurger on April 29, 2010, 23:18:20

Quote from: KG on April 29, 2010, 03:32:19

Quote from: SingingSurger on April 28, 2010, 01:35:40

Whoops, IO forgot. Could someone condense or make it into an MP3 file? I simply must hear it again, as I can no longer play the level, because I can't download stuff on my new computer.

If you can't download stuff on your computer, how can you hope to download anything someone converts to an MP3?

Quote from: Jigganis on April 29, 2010, 01:49:29

Could this be called an absurdist game, you think?

Sure. I am rather absurdist myself.

Also, I CAN download MP3 Files >.< I really hope someone can just make it and MP3 file for my shuffle, the song rocks. After this, it's Full Moon by Sonata Arctica (Spelling?)

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on April 30, 2010, 05:14:36

Quote from: SingingSurger on April 29, 2010, 23:18:20

Also, I CAN download MP3 Files >.< I really hope someone can just make it and MP3 file for my shuffle, the song rocks. After this, it's Full Moon by Sonata Arctica (Spelling?)

Not sure how much sense that makes, but here's a link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?lkmkcqoac4z

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: SingingSurger on May 01, 2010, 00:50:41

Thanks so much KG =D. Also, I can stop calling the song "Teenhmifnoeafgil" and now "The Barren World" Thanks =P

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on May 29, 2010, 05:20:28

Quote from: GrayFace on March 24, 2010, 03:58:51

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

What does Juni Kutera say?

I never noticed this comment before, I guess.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

If you've played Too Much Soda and gotten the trashcan ending, this ought to make a little bit of sense (though probably not).
She says the following:
"WHAT IS THE MEANING OF LIFE?"
"TOO MUCH SODA IS BAD FOR YOU."

In case you were still curious after two months.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Ghost on May 30, 2010, 12:55:45

Toasting in an epic bread.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: GrayFace on June 01, 2010, 12:19:24

Quote from: KG on May 29, 2010, 05:20:28

Quote from: GrayFace on March 24, 2010, 03:58:51

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

What does Juni Kutera say?

I never noticed this comment before, I guess.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

If you've played Too Much Soda and gotten the trashcan ending, this ought to make a little bit of sense (though probably not).
She says the following:
"WHAT IS THE MEANING OF LIFE?"
"TOO MUCH SODA IS BAD FOR YOU."

In case you were still curious after two months.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

After I finished Too Much Soda I laughed at that :)

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on June 01, 2010, 23:18:12

Quote from: GrayFace on June 01, 2010, 12:19:24

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

After I finished Too Much Soda I laughed at that :)

Good, good.
I do like humor in my levels.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: bulbapuck on August 05, 2010, 01:35:57

i actually didn't think I would ever be able to decide which level would be my favorite of all time, until I played this one a couple of days ago. Best level ever. No doubt about it.

There are three things that make me sure of this: 1) I f*cking LOVE the music C)p It's weird in the best possible way :)   2) Translating. I don't know why, but translating the game as I went along was a very interesting experience indeed. It felt quite rewarding. And 3)

Spoiler: does anyone not know anymore (click to show/hide)

The boss. I mean WOW 0.0! How long did it take to make that? I'm real curious about that. Anyway, EPIC!!!!!11!!1!

Brilliant level :)

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Purple Pineapple on August 05, 2010, 02:20:43

Did this significantly change since I last downloaded it?

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Namely the 'good' ending and normal talking things in the green and yellow place?

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Antikythera on August 05, 2010, 03:51:54

I am blown away. I'm glad I stuck with this level. I really enjoyed the slight absurdism, but I was really surprised to see how structured everything was at the end.

This really isn't non sequitur or absurd or random or even funny. It's just brilliant.

Did I notice a Discordianism reference?

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Purple Pineapple on August 05, 2010, 08:50:46

Quote from: Antikythera on August 05, 2010, 03:51:54

Did I notice a Discordianism reference?

Quote from: KG on April 26, 2009, 21:24:49

There are quite a few random references to things in the level.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Antikythera on August 05, 2010, 09:09:57

Am I missing something? I saw that post. The fact that there are references in the level doesn't imply that there is a Discordianism reference.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Purple Pineapple on August 05, 2010, 20:25:59

I don't know if there is or not. I'm just saying there's a good chance.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on August 17, 2010, 09:05:53

Quote from: bulbapuck on August 05, 2010, 01:35:57

Spoiler: does anyone not know anymore (click to show/hide)

The boss. I mean WOW 0.0! How long did it take to make that? I'm real curious about that. Anyway, EPIC!!!!!11!!1!

I have no idea how long it took. I made this sometime in 2008, I think. I honestly believe, though, that that sort of thing is not that hard provided you have a very patient editor. And I'm not as patient as they come. Thank you, though.

Quote from: Purple Pineapple on August 05, 2010, 02:20:43

Did this significantly change since I last downloaded it?

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Namely the 'good' ending and normal talking things in the green and yellow place?

I'm not sure what you could be talking about. I don't believe I have worked on this level ever since its completion.

Quote from: Antikythera on August 05, 2010, 03:51:54

I am blown away. I'm glad I stuck with this level. I really enjoyed the slight absurdism, but I was really surprised to see how structured everything was at the end.

This really isn't non sequitur or absurd or random or even funny. It's just brilliant.

Did I notice a Discordianism reference?

Thank you.
I did possibly mention something Discordian, but I do not recall inserting such a reference--though I don't recall a lot of things.
You'd have to remind me what the possible reference is.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Purple Pineapple on August 17, 2010, 09:14:01

Quote from: KG on August 17, 2010, 09:05:53

Quote from: Purple Pineapple on August 05, 2010, 02:20:43

Did this significantly change since I last downloaded it?

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Namely the 'good' ending and normal talking things in the green and yellow place?

I'm not sure what you could be talking about. I don't believe I have worked on this level ever since its completion.

Maybe I just rushed through the level so quickly last time that I didn't notice anyone talking normal. I'll go check anyway. I think I have an older version of it somewhere.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Marximillian on August 22, 2012, 03:05:31

This is one of those levels more people should know about.
It has a strangeness, philosophy, and a serious boss fight.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Dj Gopher on August 22, 2012, 10:19:23

Truly of my favorite levels. It also stands as the only knytt level to make me cry.
I'm also in love with KG for other reasons but don't tell him, it weirds the guy out.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Marximillian on August 23, 2012, 22:49:18

Quote from: Dj Gopher on August 22, 2012, 10:19:23

Truly of my favorite levels. It also stands as the only knytt level to make me cry.
I'm also in love with KG for other reasons but don't tell him, it weirds the guy out.

Other reasons? :D

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Well on August 24, 2012, 07:46:33

Quote from: Marximillian on August 23, 2012, 22:49:18

Quote from: Dj Gopher on August 22, 2012, 10:19:23

Truly of my favorite levels. It also stands as the only knytt level to make me cry.
I'm also in love with KG for other reasons but don't tell him, it weirds the guy out.

Other reasons? :D

Yaois! :oops:

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Santicol on August 24, 2012, 21:56:14

I am gonna try this, I have really never before played a "hard" level so.. yeah. I am such a noob in Knytt Stories.  :moody:


EDIT: WHAT THA FUDGE?!?! ... Woah, So far this is weird, I mean... look at the talking shoe with creepy music that talks an unknown language, or the Juni with a chipmunk voice. This makes me feel high,  :crazy:  :crazy:  :nuts:

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Marximillian on August 26, 2012, 03:29:05

Quote from: Santicol on August 24, 2012, 21:56:14

I am gonna try this, I have really never before played a "hard" level so.. yeah. I am such a noob in Knytt Stories.  :moody:


EDIT: WHAT THA FUDGE?!?! ... Woah, So far this is weird, I mean... look at the talking shoe with creepy music that talks an unknown language, or the Juni with a chipmunk voice. This makes me feel high,  :crazy:  :crazy:  :nuts:

It's not really hard unless you're trying to get the best ending.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Dj Gopher on August 26, 2012, 10:13:51

the only hard part is the boss fight.
however, the ending it brings you to is, in my opinion, the best part of any knytt level I've ever played
(tied with the secret area in Quincent Cartographer's A Walk at Night)

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Marximillian on October 30, 2012, 20:25:08

Quote from: KG on August 17, 2010, 09:05:53

Quote from: Antikythera on August 05, 2010, 03:51:54

Did I notice a Discordianism reference?

Thank you.
I did possibly mention something Discordian, but I do not recall inserting such a reference--though I don't recall a lot of things.
You'd have to remind me what the possible reference is.

What was the Discordian reference, if anyone knows?

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Dj Gopher on November 01, 2012, 02:55:07

If you are referring to the religion, I would say the parts in the ending talking about the nature of darkness and chaos would at least be familiar..
If you are talking about a game or something, I've no idea

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Marximillian on November 05, 2012, 22:42:34

Quote from: Dj Gopher on November 01, 2012, 02:55:07

If you are referring to the religion, I would say the parts in the ending talking about the nature of darkness and chaos would at least be familiar..
If you are talking about a game or something, I've no idea

I was under the impression Discordianism is more light-hearted, and chaos is taken as meaning disorder rather than a primordial void as in, say, Greek or Chinese mythology. I mean I guess in this level, things are sort of light-hearted too, but the darkness and chaos stuff seems older than Discordianism to me.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: GrayFace on November 07, 2012, 15:20:08

Here is a version for KS Ex with bigger shift delays: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5c7nkeu8ddql01j/KG%20-%20Teenhmifnoeafgil.knytt.bin?dl=1
This should make the animation closer to intended speed. The change slows down animation only in KS Ex. I haven't tested the whole level after the change, only tested the animation.
KG, is the speed right?

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on November 08, 2012, 07:54:42

Quote from: GrayFace on November 07, 2012, 15:20:08

Here is a version for KS Ex with bigger shift delays: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/44735333/ks/KG%20-%20Teenhmifnoeafgil.knytt.bin
This should make the animation closer to intended speed. The change slows down animation only in KS Ex. I haven't tested the whole level after the change, only tested the animation.
KG, is the speed right?

Oh, hi. Things are still happening here.
I just played it, and it seems to be the same. I don't really know how this newfangled Knytt Stories is supposed to work, or even what it does, but yeah it doesn't seem different for Teenhmifnoeafgil. Then again, maybe I installed it wrong? All I did was extract it into the Knytt Stories folder. Don't concern yourself about it though.
Edit: Although, now you can play as a ball I guess. That's pretty weird.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: GrayFace on November 08, 2012, 09:20:36

Yes, perhaps the ShiftsDelay value I used is too small. In world.ini in [KS Ex] section try ShiftsDelay=8 instead.
This doesn't make the level behave exactly like in 1.0.4 though, because Juni moves during these delays.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

This makes The Light harder.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Marximillian on November 19, 2012, 22:32:48

Quote from: GrayFace on November 08, 2012, 09:20:36

Yes, perhaps the ShiftsDelay value I used is too small. In world.ini in [KS Ex] section try ShiftsDelay=8 instead.
This doesn't make the level behave exactly like in 1.0.4 though, because Juni moves during these delays.

I think it's cool that you can still almost-emulate the way the game used to be so slow. It lets you hear the sounds more completely than you normally would.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: GrayFace on November 20, 2012, 02:27:45

So, does the value of 8 work right? I haven't played it with the old KS version.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: KG on November 29, 2012, 05:28:57

Quote from: GrayFace on November 20, 2012, 02:27:45

So, does the value of 8 work right? I haven't played it with the old KS version.

Oh sorry hi. I really don't understand how this new KS works exactly, so I don't know how to change the value and stuff.
But still, really, it doesn't need to be like the old version, I've since decided it's not necessary. Though I appreciate the effort.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: GrayFace on November 29, 2012, 17:07:14

Yes, I also thought that it was fine when sped-up, but slowed down it is still cooler.
I'll go with 6 then. I've noticed that this delay does break Gospel if you go away from shifts area too soon, but it continues when you return to the area, so shouldn't be a problem.
The link is the same: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5c7nkeu8ddql01j/KG%20-%20Teenhmifnoeafgil.knytt.bin?dl=1

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Caveflower on December 17, 2013, 00:07:01

Quote from: KG on April 25, 2009, 20:36:33

Iggyzor made a notepad document in which there are translations of almost all of the text:

http://www.mediafire.com/?mqzmk4gniiz

Some bits he kind of messed up on (either by making typographical errors or reading wrong) and some bits I messed up on because I don't know why.

"Invalid or Deleted File.
The key you provided for file access was invalid. This is usually caused because the file is no longer stored on MediaFire. This occurs when the file is removed by the originating user or MediaFire.

Still have questions, or think we've made a mistake? Please contact support for further assistance."

Could the translation be re-uploaded? It seems to be an outdated link.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Delucion on March 26, 2014, 03:19:55

Just wanted to post to say what a touching and beautiful game this is. Thank you for making it. At first it was very disorienting, like being lost in a strange land - I felt very apprehensive, but open and curious, exploring it. I found several endings, and these endings, along with some of the translated dialog, started to show me something deeper here. I played through the game again just to get to the main ending (before knowing a main one existed). When I finally got to the ending, what a profound and touching way to end it, that's all I can say. The message you had in the credits, also, brought tears to my eyes - it was such a touching sentiment. This game defies expectations, at least, it did for me. This game is something special, I think, and I'm glad I got to play it. Thank you again.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: kilicool64 on August 17, 2015, 23:37:24

Quote from: gorrillateef on November 08, 2009, 23:11:54

I tried playing it with the old KS, and it was incompatible. Also, it uses flags, which, 1.04 did not support.

I've got the same problem. I downloaded version 1.0.4 of Knytt Stories from Nifflas' site, and it claims that this level requires a more recent version. In order to make sure something isn't wrong with the version hosted on Mediafire, I redownloaded it from knyttlevels.com, and even from that old level dump torrent, but got the same error each time.

So either something is wrong with my computer or version 1.0.4 isn't compatible with this level. Is anyone else able to play a copy of this level downloaded from one of the three abovementioned sources with the version of KS available at http://nifflas.ni2.se/content/Knytt%20Stories/Knytt%20Stories%20104.exe (http://nifflas.ni2.se/content/Knytt%20Stories/Knytt%20Stories%20104.exe)?

It works fine with version 1.2.1, mind you, but I'd rather play the level the way it was intended.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: egomassive on August 18, 2015, 11:05:49

This level was designed for a version of KS that fell between the 2 versions available on Nifflas' home site. The newest version of KS is 100% backwards compatible with this level as far as I know.

You can look at the Teenhmifnoeafgil's World.ini. Near the top is a line, "Format=1" This indicates the minimum version of KS you need. KS 1.0.4 is only compatible with Format 0 levels.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: kilicool64 on August 18, 2015, 18:16:01

Quote from: egomassive on August 18, 2015, 11:05:49

This level was designed for a version of KS that fell between the 2 versions available on Nifflas' home site. The newest version of KS is 100% backwards compatible with this level as far as I know.

You can look at the Teenhmifnoeafgil's World.ini. Near the top is a line, "Format=1" This indicates the minimum version of KS you need. KS 1.0.4 is only compatible with Format 0 levels.

According to the first post in this topic, certain parts of this level don't work exactly like they were intended in the latest version of KS. Does anyone still have the version it was designed for?

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: egomassive on August 18, 2015, 23:01:30

Oh right, the shifts go faster now. I dug up KS 1.1.0 (http://egomassive.com/nifflas/KS110.zip) (3.4 MB) for you. This is just the executable in a zip file. I'd name it "Knytt Stories 110.exe" and place it in my existing Knytt Stories directory. It needs access to the other files.

PS. Your browser will probably complain about the safety of the file, because I'm just some obscure person with his own website.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: kilicool64 on August 19, 2015, 00:13:39

Quote from: egomassive on August 18, 2015, 23:01:30

Oh right, the shifts go faster now. I dug up KS 1.1.0 (http://egomassive.com/nifflas/KS110.zip) (3.4 MB) for you. This is just the executable in a zip file. I'd name it "Knytt Stories 110.exe" and place it in my existing Knytt Stories directory. It needs access to the other files.

PS. Your browser will probably complain about the safety of the file, because I'm just some obscure person with his own website.

Thanks a lot. I'll give it a shot later.

Edit: It seems to be working. Thanks again.

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: pfrangip on August 29, 2015, 01:12:41

I just beat this remarkable level for the first time. Many years ago I played it, didn't translate any of the text, died to the boss, and lost interest. I gotta say... the ending is what makes it all come together.

I did diligently translate all of the speech this time. I now actually wish I had beaten it WITHOUT translating all of the text. I can now appreciate why the author chose to encrypt it.

Spoiler: More thoughts (click to show/hide)

I remember, the first time I played it, thinking the Boot was some malevolent entity, and just being confused to no end.

Also, the earlier translation link was broken, so I will offer a transcript of all translations for those who haven't seen it yet, and are too lazy to do so themselves. I will again remind you that I actually think the level is better without the translations.

Spoiler: Translation of all text (click to show/hide)

This contains corrections to what I assume were typos.

I__emeonali
fer_rgibur
weou_a_op
wtsegewr
_ahah_u
et_tes
_d_w_
ot_e
s,b.
d_d
de
s
If we were to measure the good against the bad, we would be surprised.

Jn_im__h
u,_irot.
ittot_h
i_f_nt
s_uru
eoar
yet
l_
e
Juni, it is time for you to learn the truth.

Waihr_e
h_ttIl
t____
ssht
its?
uuh
mr
a
What is this truth I must learn?

I__ryloy
tst_ic_.
l_hwsyf
at_ibl
uud_e
o_rs
ler
vu
o
It is a truth you will discover by yourself.

G_dp_lhat
onxe_tmi
aers_u_
_oi,od
lhdyn
th_i
anf
e_
y
.
Go and  explore this land, then you may find it.

Ileu
_vo..
oyrt
_Mo
_o
B
I love you Mr. Boot.

W_ohu
entr
k_t
w_.
eh
t
We know the truth.

Yunnn
ok_i
_wh
ot
o.
g
You know nothing.

Itn's
_iIo
h_l
k_
m.
t
I think I'm lost.

Iaf_tdo
__m__i
moeds
rhrn
tie
hm
I.
n
I am from the third dimension.

Tii__dsaci
h_ad___sl
s_ntsena
saaecae
lhinrr
tnet_
ei_s
cdd
nn.
ey
t
This is a land that denies science and transcends reality.

I__i_yl.
tsly_le
inltip
ueawa
kh_c
tus
oe
_
It is unlikely that you will escape.

NOT HEART PATH

Ofiyylh
fw__ic
_h,vn
tu_e
ouw
o_
e
!
Off with you, you vile wench!

Iaatly
__u_m.
moo_s
bteg
_se
ol
_
I am about to lose my legs.

Ihes_
_voy.
Alms
__g
te
l
I have lost my legs.

Goo'
oggb
__o
oo
j
Goo goo g'job.

Hpi_ee_
o_altt
e_ita
saa_.
f_te
dpf
mi
l
Hope is a failed attempt at life.

T_ei_re
or_oeh
dmtft
a_f_.
sund
sin
_e
_
To dream is to suffer in the end.

TEOSS_H
HGEASW
_DHEY
D_YR
SEE.
_VE
ER
E
THE GODDESS HAS EYES EVERYWHERE.

Yuatmag
ow_uln!
_t_liy
neere
hrBk
b__
?a
_
You want the umbrella? Bring a key!

Id'a_
_nha
o__.
tey
ve
k
I don't have a key.

N_yov
oenr
k_e!
,se
_c
I
No key, no service!

Wasin?
H'ooe
tg_r
_ge
nh
_
What's going on here?

Indk
_e_
ea.
_y
e
I need a key.

Lteahr
ehhtb
___m.
reua
v_l
el
e
Let her have the umbrella.

Ic'se_
_n_na
a,__
tes!
hdy
ee
k
I can't, she needs a key!

Vrw.il_h
e_lnlee
yluohb.
eJft_e
___hm
,wt_
oad
pn
i
Very well. Juni, follow the path behind me.

O,oat
hyhi
-_-
ue
v
!
Oh, you have it!

G_,e
onh
ot
_.
n
Go on, then.

Yuevu
ori_
'gg
_n
I?
p
You've giving up?

Wl_hyvntw
e,r_arcy
leshamn
pp_eoa
auls_
o__g
edn
ei.
hy
a
Well, perhaps you have learned something anyway.

Jn_shrg
u,_ttn
ise_i
ingl?
Onbu
iuo
oy
_
Juni, is sonething troubling you?

N,irt
oMeo
_to
sB
_
.
No, mister Boot.

Vrw.
e_l
yl
e
Very well.

HEART PATH

Tig_s
h_ea
sm_
as
i!
a
This game is asa![sic (Ass?)]

Idarefaama
'revutiue
_hab_dd_
th_o__y
_alaam
_l_e_
aenn
kri
r_
p.
r
I'd rather have a buffalo take a diarnae dump in my ear.

Imonl
'nap
__p
ta
_.
e
I'm not an apple.

Imoegs
'hwnt
__in
tra
ap
_
!
I'm hot wearing pants!

Ya_sl
e,'o
hto
ic
_
.
Yeah, it's cool.

I'gnal
t_n_e
snev
obo.
_l.
_.
y
It's gonna be a lovely...

Lvyy
ola
ed
_
!
Lovely day!

Isusso_.
_O_eyat
hdu__c
lqrnk
eein
t_a
ul
b
I should sequester you in a blanket.

Iaw_.
__tm
maa
h_
I
I am what I am.

Iwdwyo_
_n__oe
ortlk.
ea_id
hule
o_k
ka
n
I wonder what you look like naked.

Id'e_
_nbg.
o_ne
tor
le
n
I don't belong here.

..cewnatd.
.es_____e
buedeoec
awlbthn
_u__te
ote_r
olle
blf
ef
I

...because we would not be able to tell the difference.

Io__he_
feeyehd
pllttl
pns_u
oi,o.
ldww
e_o
yn
k
(If people only listened)? they would know.

Termnl_yt
ht_i_sba.
_enfi_ct
uao_nri
e_ewc_
gfo_f
ineo
kh_
tr
o
The true meaning of life is known by the creator of it.


Wld,i_eh
e_enult.
lnuo__h
oJYedt
__veu
.anr
hrt
a_
e
Well done, Juni. You have learned the truth.

I'm afraid I have no idea what "mirror Juni" was saying at the end.

WXHT1TU
3ST
TUHI2
MN21NO3NOGH
4FG
LM3FG2q

TU44
MN5CDHI
ST4DE1
3ST
BC1DE
FG4RS
YZ45

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on August 30, 2015, 13:52:28

This has probably been said before, but about that last text:

Spoiler: Pointless cryptanalysis (click to show/hide)

The consonants in the original words are left as is, but each vowel is replaced by a numerical index (1 for A, 2 for E...). Then, the result is obfuscated by injecting additional letters right after each consonant. The added letters are calculated by adding 1 to the index of the original (L->M, M->N...)

WHAT
WH1T
WXH1T
WXHI1T
WXHI1TU

There seem to be a few errors in the text you posted, but after fixing those, the output would be something like this (not entirely sure about the question mark, though):

"WHAT IS THE MEANING OF LIFE?
TOO MUCH SODA IS BAD FOR YOU"

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: Comhon on September 06, 2015, 22:19:10

I tried to play it, because lot of people had it as their favorite...

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

I came to an ending
What is the meaning of life?
with rest of screen blank

I probably need to replay it again, because for now:

my response to decription:
"I don't know how to describe this."
is:
"I don't know what to think about this."

Title: Re: [Hard?] [Miscellaneous/Miscellaneous] Teenhmifnoeafgil
Post by: pfrangip on September 07, 2015, 15:10:54

Quote from: Comhon on September 06, 2015, 22:19:10

I tried to play it, because lot of people had it as their favorite...

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

I came to an ending
What is the meaning of life?
with rest of screen blank

I probably need to replay it again, because for now:

my response to decription:
"I don't know how to describe this."
is:
"I don't know what to think about this."

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

There is a much larger ending where you go through some major challenges (You'll know when you do it) with a LOT of English text, and it will translate some of the in-game text for you.