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Title: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: ixMarcel on September 22, 2012, 15:23:40
Hello!  8D
It's finished! At last it's finished! It's a challenge level, and the goal is simple - get to the top of tower. Sometimes you'll have to leave the tower to get power up (Like climbing, or umbrella). Then come back and continue quest. It has a lot of custom tilesets, so it won't be boring  ;). Download, comment and rate. Remember, that this is my first level  :D. I'm very tired after that work so... See you later!
Update: The "normal" version has been updated (I added more savepoints, fixed voids etc.). Now, it's easier... I believe.
(http://i50.tinypic.com/v6q32o.png) (http://www.mediafire.com/download/ptkj9rtht58pyya/ixMarcel+-+The+tower+of+Lightning.knytt.bin) (http://i50.tinypic.com/oe3bt.png) (http://www.mediafire.com/download/wn7bly2i2d9zw7u/ixMarcel+-+TheTower+of+LightningEASY.knytt.bin)

Info about versions: The "super easy version" is really super easy, but... there's no bonus areas and secrets! That's your choice...

Spoiler: Video walkthroughs for this level (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: Raicuparta on September 22, 2012, 18:14:34
This is Hard, not Normal. Maybe due to the bad positioning or lack of save points, and for using too many unpredictable enemies in hard to manage positions. Only played for a few minutes until I quit after dying too many times in one section, but I want to finish it eventually.
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: ixMarcel on September 22, 2012, 18:21:17
It's hard? Well... Sorry guys!  :ohnoes: Maybe I will make easy version? Work, work, work... Ok it's finished!
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: Raicuparta on September 22, 2012, 19:44:31
Did you remove the version I entitled Hard? Some people might want to play the harder version.
Anyway I am enjoying this and will post something about it soon ;)
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: ixMarcel on September 22, 2012, 19:56:12
Quote from: Raicuparta on September 22, 2012, 19:44:31
Did you remove the version I entitled Hard?
No. There's two versions: normal ("hard") and easy  C)p.
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: Polana on September 22, 2012, 20:17:48
Hi,
I would like to say that I like look of this level. However, I was not able to play it to the end because there were some mistakes, that spoiled all game and some enemies were really bad placed.
Then I tried to "cheat" through editor and find some more errors. Here is my list:
Going left from screen 1002/995 will loop you to the 1004/995. There is wallswim and it is impossible to jump onto
the blue platform (which is, in my opinion, little crowded with enemies) without double jump.
1005/995: projectiles of that grey monster (eb 24) are invisible on the white background so it is very hard to pass it. You
should also add more savepoints into this part - I had to play it 8 times until I obtained umbrella. It would bore everyone.
Wallswim between 988/995 and 988/996.
Jumping off the screen 990/992 and surrounding screens leads to void. I don't know if player is supposed to get there but after getting double jump is logical to go there.

How should player get to the cave with double jump without editor ?

Looking forward to new version.  :a1:

edit:
O.K. I've downloded easy version (it seems that you uploaded it just in the moment when I was posting this).
Some errors are still here:
Wallswim between 988/995 and 988/996.
Jumping off the screen 990/992 and surrounding screens leads to void. I don't know if player is supposed to get there but after getting double jump is logical to go there.
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: ixMarcel on September 22, 2012, 20:34:29
Thanks a lot Polana!!!  :D. I'm updating now. Sorry for troubles for everyone.
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: dave.germain on September 28, 2012, 19:55:27
I just played through the Normal version until I got to the Yellow key. So far, so fun. It's one of those games where you have 5 or 6 different monsters on one screen and you need to dodge them all.
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: ixMarcel on September 28, 2012, 20:58:26
Can someone upload my levels to Knytt Stories Level Archive? If you can, first upload "normal" version, then "easy". If you can't upload "normal" version don't upload "easy", beacuse it doesn't make sense. If someone will help me, I will give him  :hiddenstar:  :nuts:!
PS: Upload newest versions from first post. They were updated today ;).
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: dave.germain on September 29, 2012, 07:34:51
I just tried to upload your level but it didn't go. I'm not sure why. I am able to upload my own levels without any problem.
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: Widget on September 29, 2012, 09:39:15
Yeah, I tried it earlier aswell; also without success  :/
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: ixMarcel on October 15, 2012, 19:29:15
Here's walkthrough (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBKBea1RRVw).
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: Talps on November 09, 2012, 17:44:25
I played it. I only got one of the keys though.

It's pretty good for a first level, but there are a couple of things to mention. The umbrella/spike courses were definitely 'Very Hard'. There were times you were rewarded for exploring the outside of the tower and times you were punished for it (dropping down outside many of the higher areas sent you to a screen very low down).
And twice you misspelt my name as 'Tlaps', meaning you didn't actually give me credit for my work.

However, as I say it was quite good for a first level. I happen to be a fan of Very Hard umbrella puzzles and apart from one or two sections where it got rather annoying, I did enjoy doing most of them. Most of the areas were quite good and while this is definitely a Very Hard difficulty level, there were only a few screens that were annoying (areas where you get attacked as soon as walking into a screen, or at the end of a jump, say). There was also only one pop-out enemy without warning that I noticed, so that was good, too.


EDIT: Ok, I cheated to see the bonus. T! A! L! P! S! Not Tlaps! Tlaps is not my name! Three Four times!

*Goes to sit quietly for 10 minutes*

Ok, I'm calm. I was a bit annoyed by the water at the end of the secret area 'cus I'd gotten used to being safe by then and you hadn't given me back the run powerup back so I assumed it was safe, and I drowned. But it was a fairly original thing to do with a secret area, which I quite liked.
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: ixMarcel on November 09, 2012, 19:29:40
Quote from: Talps on November 09, 2012, 17:44:25
EDIT: Ok, I cheated to see the bonus. T! A! L! P! S! Not Tlaps! Tlaps is not my name! Three Four times!
Sorry Talps  :oops:. I realized that a few months ago when I was talking with my friend about Knytt. "Isn't he Talps Marcel?" - he said XD. Then I was like "Oh sh...  :shocked:". I will update "Tower of Lightning" as soon as possible. I had the same problem with Raicuparta (beacuse I was thinking, that he's Raicupatra). I'm such an idiot  :moody:. Anyway I'm glad you liked it a little bit. I didn't know that the blue key is hard to find...
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: Fubaka on November 09, 2012, 22:12:31
I thought it was pretty good overall, but there are a few issues that I'd like to bring up, in your latest version:

At x1000y999 and x1004y984, there are void screens.  The former is harmless, but the latter sends you careening into the space between spaces.

At x990y991, the chat box is empty.  Was that guy supposed to be saying something?

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

I'll review your level, granted these are all dealt with appropriately.

Quote from: ixMarcel on November 09, 2012, 19:29:40
I didn't know that the blue key is hard to find...

Probably because you didn't put the blue detect target boxes there.  Those usually indicate secrets to Knytt Stories players.
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: Raicuparta on November 09, 2012, 22:29:03
Quote from: ixMarcel on November 09, 2012, 19:29:40
Sorry Talps  :oops:. I realized that a few months ago when I was talking with my friend about Knytt. "Isn't he Talps Marcel?" - he sayd XD. Then I was like "Oh sh...  :shocked:". I will update "Trap of Lightning" as soon as possible. I had the same problem with Raicuparta (beacuse I was thinking, that he's Raicupatra). I'm such an idiot  :moody:. Anyway I'm glad you liked it a little bit. I didn't know that the blue key is hard to find...
I can understand non-portuguese speakers to have trouble with my user name, I'm ok with people calling me just "Rai" :)
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: Talps on November 09, 2012, 23:22:43
Mine is the word 'Splat' spelt backwards.

But it's good to take time to check spelling precisely when giving credit.
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: GrayFace on November 16, 2012, 01:04:39
It's been a while since I played this level. I liked it.
x1004y990 - you can go up into void or wallswim, I don't remember.
x1009y987 - if you go to the left screen, then back right you end up in a void or wallswim.
P.S. My nick is the word "Ecafyarg" spelled backwards. Well, actually it's my first name and surname "translated" to English.
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: KG on February 16, 2013, 09:41:17
When I go right here, it leads to a void screen.
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: ixMarcel on February 16, 2013, 10:06:28
Oh maaaan... OK, thanks I'm going to fix that  :).
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: pfrangip on February 16, 2013, 15:05:25
Just played this for the first time. It was the revised "Normal Level." I really enjoyed it! A lot to explore in a fun little package. I would call it NORMAL/HARD, but not VERY HARD. Not sure how its been changed, but the Umbrella Puzzles, which I normally hate, really were not that bad. (What I really hate is having to navigate down a spiked corridor with naught but the umbrella.)

Got the secret ending on the first try. I share your love for Talps' epic levels! I'm going to use that list as a jumpboard for the next levels I play, right after I finish "The World is Changing."


Anyways, GREAT LEVEL, especially for your first! I'm looking forward to more! Have a star!
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: ixMarcel on February 16, 2013, 15:13:54
Wow, thanks!  :) I'm glad You enjoyed my level.
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: Purple Ink on February 17, 2013, 04:11:03
Played this when it was first released and realised I haven't said anything yet. Just finished up playing through it again for the competition. It's a great level. :)
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on February 03, 2016, 21:14:30
I played this level recently and enjoyed it a lot. Very challenging, but fair for the most part. Visuals were pretty good too. My only gripe would be the placement of some of the enemies/traps, especially those that kill you almost instantly upon entering a room. Also...

Spoiler: Secret area (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Minor bug (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [Challenge, Normal] The Tower of Lightning
Post by: ixMarcel on February 04, 2016, 20:05:06
Thanks for the feedback  ;).

Spoiler: Secret (click to show/hide)