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Title: World Of Text
Post by: minmay on April 17, 2010, 01:36:01
http://yourworldoftext.com/nifforum
nevermind, trolls got it then the website went down
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Pick Yer Poison on April 17, 2010, 05:29:24
We now have an ASCII Juni on display, created by yours truly. :3
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 17, 2010, 06:23:05
my bros and i made a few additions i'm sure you'll approve
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 17, 2010, 12:52:47
hey...there isn't anything here!
just a message saying "TROLOLOLOLOLO"!
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Yukabacera on April 17, 2010, 13:21:32
Then, we got pwned.

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Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 17, 2010, 13:22:48
I just re-built the ASCII Juni, and Razzor did a ASCII Knytt.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Yukabacera on April 17, 2010, 13:36:33
Hah, my hidden message didn't disappear...

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Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Pick Yer Poison on April 17, 2010, 21:03:40
Thanks, jimj316. o/
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Yukabacera on April 18, 2010, 11:27:51
We got pwned again. Man, this is getting annoying.

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Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 18, 2010, 12:27:35
I know how to "protect" a world, since I have an account at yourworldoftext.com/home.I would become the world owner, and I could make it so that only certain members can edit the world, or set certain areas of text as protected. however, I found out that to do this, I must "claim" the world, and this is irreversable. anybody would be able to see the world, but only people with an account whom I had given permission to edit would be able to do so. Minmay, since you started the world, I'll let you decide. Should I claim the world, become the admin, and stop us from being trolled again?

EDIT:
We got pwned again. Man, this is getting annoying.

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did we? looks fine to me...

EDIT AGAIN: I just found that someone deleted my Juni. (luckily she is fine now)
I'm e-mailing the guy who made YWoT to ask him if it is possible to have two world owners. If he says no, I'll let Minmay claim the world. If yes, I will first, then let Minmay claim as well.

EDIT YET AGAIN: my Juni got typed over again, and part of Razzor's. I'm claiming anyway (for now). Minmay, if it turns out that I can resign, PM me and I will turn over my adminship to you.

AND AGAIN: I just tried to claim, but it said "too many people have edited that world" and that I couldn't claim. I'm e-mailing the guy again.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Razzorman on April 18, 2010, 13:38:25
:huh: Everything looks fine.

AND AGAIN: I just tried to claim, but it said "too many people have edited that world" and that I couldn't claim. I'm e-mailing the guy again.
Don't claim the world. It's better this way.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 18, 2010, 18:58:53
i wasn't the bad guy
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 18, 2010, 19:28:03
:huh: Everything looks fine.
that's because I fixed it. Someone had made their sentence run long and it went through your Juni's face, and my Juni had been completely dizzolved in ramblings.

Anyway, I can't claim unless the guy grants me special permission.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 18, 2010, 19:53:40
claiming is bad

it's much more fun if it's erased every once in a while so it doesn't become a huge mess (like it is now)
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Razzorman on April 18, 2010, 19:55:07
It doesn't get interesting until it becomes a huge mess...
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Dataflashsabot on April 18, 2010, 20:11:13
claiming is bad

it's much more fun if it's erased every once in a while so it doesn't become a huge mess (like it is now)
I disagree. I'm working on a large structure, there's some awesome ASCII art, and there's some... interesting Juni porn.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: minmay on April 18, 2010, 22:05:35
holy frick I can't believe someone actually made Juni porn.

wait, no.  yes, yes I can believe that.  BUT I WISH I COULDN'T.



Also, I agree that conversations should be erased regularly, but not ASCII art.  Unless it sucks/is already somewhere else.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Dataflashsabot on April 18, 2010, 22:44:15
To whoever is deleting the... things involving Juni, please stop doing so and simply refrain from going to those coordinates. Thank you.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 18, 2010, 23:37:55
yeah, It just occurred to me that protecting this place maybe isn't such a good idea, and I've given up on it. still, please don't post anything that wouldn't be allowed here, or at least not without warning beforehand.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: minmay on April 18, 2010, 23:49:44
Anyone else having the problem of editing things and having their edits just...disappear?  It seems to happen mainly when I'm using non-ASCII characters.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 18, 2010, 23:51:30
That's happened to me too but I think it's just people undoing what I did because they disagree with it or something.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 18, 2010, 23:57:40
that keeps happening to me, and it seems to only do it with non-ASCII. I type a whole sentence, look up from my keyboard, and it has only got the first few chars or so.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: AClockworkLemon on April 19, 2010, 00:05:05
That has happened to me as well.


Also - may i propose that NOBODY edits ASCII art that are tagged with NO EDITING. I get where you are coming from monkey, but it's probably a good idea to leave them alone for a while before you edit them, so other people get a chance to see 'em
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 19, 2010, 00:05:26
I had a conversation with ACWL or something like that:

Spoiler: image (click to show/hide)

It was deleted shortly after that, and I don't think I left anything important out; if I did, just add it as a reply.

Also, if nobody can parse English without punctuation, I'll translate it.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: AClockworkLemon on April 19, 2010, 00:09:57
Nah, there wasn't anything much that you missed in that screenie. I still hold my stand that there should be some (at least rudimentary) rules set down
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 19, 2010, 00:17:44
The whole problem with World of Text is the ability to anonymously break any rule whatsoever.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 19, 2010, 00:25:07
That has happened to me as well.


Also - may i propose that NOBODY edits ASCII art that are tagged with NO EDITING. I get where you are coming from monkey, but it's probably a good idea to leave them alone for a while before you edit them, so other people get a chance to see 'em

Good idea, I'm doing that for mine.

EDIT: and I just found something really cool at 3,-3.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Razzorman on April 19, 2010, 00:53:11
Rule 1: Respect others' work.

That is all.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Dataflashsabot on April 19, 2010, 01:12:44
Just because it's an open canvas doesn't mean you have to be a jerk about it. It's kinda like smashing up someone's Lego contraption when they leave the room because it's stupid and pointless Lego anyways and you can do it anonymously so why not.

A temporary IP ban voted on by the other currently online users would help solve things, although it could be heavily abused, and the ability for (registered) users to 'protect' their own work woulld be good too, except people would make a huge meaningless block beside something else and protect it, so.

Eh, it's not really solvable I guess. Arseholes who want to ruin everyone's fun will always find a way to do it.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 19, 2010, 01:57:05
Regarding "arseholes": What about people who edit without malicious intent?  If the author is upset with an edit to his or her work (including deletion), it doesn't necessarily mean that was the intended outcome.

Regarding Lego contraptions: The comparison would be better if it's given that the Lego contraption in question is part of a big Lego field where everyone knows everyone else is contributing anonymously, and must accept that before constructing it; if people here don't want to accept this implication of anonymity on an open canvas, and would rather get worked up whenever people do things they think are stupid, I welcome them to make their own members-only world of text. In the case that the world of text requires login, the comparison of destruction of a Lego contraption when the author leaves to anonymous deletion is far more valid.

My proposed solutions to your problems:
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: minmay on April 19, 2010, 02:06:02
  • Keep it the way it is and add a disclaimer to the first post that it is indeed anonymous and everyone should accept this before contributing.
"Free-for-all" wasn't a big enough hint, eh?
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 19, 2010, 03:00:27
Apparently.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Razzorman on April 19, 2010, 07:00:29
Well, just because you can draw a bunch of penises all over the place doesn't mean you should, nor does it mean that everyone should just accept it if it happened.

However, if everyone just didn't do things they think others might dislike, I think it would be fine.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: smeagle on April 19, 2010, 07:41:33
Were can i find a table to copy the symbols onto it?
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 19, 2010, 08:43:46
Well, just because you can draw a bunch of penises all over the place doesn't mean you should, nor does it mean that everyone should just accept it if it happened.
I'm not saying everyone should suddenly be tolerant of ASCII phalli in any context, but that if they use World of Text, they should acknowledge it as an unpreventable possibility, and if they're too afraid to have their work desecrated, they can simply avoid using World of Text, or perhaps take one of the more complex routes of my second and third proposals.


However, if everyone just didn't do things they think others might dislike, I think it would be fine.
I may or may not utterly despise it when people draw Juni without crossed eyes on World of Text.  You all had better not do that anymore!
Also, this right here doesn't cover the case of malicious world of text users: you can't stop malice by saying "we don't like that" because malice is when that is assumed (right?!), and it can't be enforced so there is no compelling reason to rethink and adhere to your guidelines.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Razzorman on April 19, 2010, 09:43:41
Well, just because you can draw a bunch of penises all over the place doesn't mean you should, nor does it mean that everyone should just accept it if it happened.
I'm not saying everyone should suddenly be tolerant of ASCII phalli in any context, but that if they use World of Text, they should acknowledge it as an unpreventable possibility, and if they're too afraid to have their work desecrated, they can simply avoid using World of Text, or perhaps take one of the more complex routes of my second and third proposals.
True that.

I may or may not utterly despise it when people draw Juni without crossed eyes on World of Text.  You all had better not do that anymore!
Well maybe I want to draw Juni's eyes the way I like them. That's no reason for you to change them to your preferred state.
That is, unless I don't mind you changing them.
It's all a matter of respect. If I say "Don't edit this", or something to that effect, then you probably shouldn't edit it, right?

Also, this right here doesn't cover the case of malicious world of text users: you can't stop malice by saying "we don't like that" because malice is when that is assumed (right?!), and it can't be enforced so there is no compelling reason to rethink and adhere to your guidelines.
Yeah, but the only thing I remember being done with "malicious intent" was the trololo thing.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Pumpkinbot on April 21, 2010, 07:03:34
*clicks link*
WHAT THE FU-*boom*
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 23, 2010, 00:35:13
URGH
THE PLACE GOT TROLLED AGAIN
This makes me rather angry.
 >( >( >(

*starts re-building Juni for the 400th time*
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: AClockworkLemon on April 23, 2010, 00:38:18
I have finished off an ASCII of the main charachter from FiNCK. to see it, scroll left, it's with the rest of my stuff. wait.... it didn't get trolled, did it? (i'm currently on a school laptop and can't load WOT)
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Yukabacera on April 23, 2010, 12:11:18
It got trolled. This is really getting annoying.

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Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Dataflashsabot on April 23, 2010, 12:48:09
Spoiler: niffmines (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: AClockworkLemon on April 23, 2010, 12:51:48
They completely erased all my ASCII :sad:.
For that reason, i will no longer be posting any ASCII on WOT, but instead here (http://nifflas.lpchip.nl/index.php?topic=3219) (hopefully the mods will make an [ASCII] tag)
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on April 23, 2010, 13:33:54
Shucks :/ Seems like the troll was really bored out of his mind. Randomly erasing all that text and ASCII art must have taken quite a bit of time. Pokey the Penguin is now in a better place (one probably filled with arctic-circle candy). Oh, well... it was fun while it lasted :P2

My condolences for the loss of the ASCII art and the Niffmines.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 23, 2010, 18:19:37
For that reason, i will no longer be posting any ASCII on WOT, but instead here (http://nifflas.lpchip.nl/index.php?topic=3219) (hopefully the mods will make an [ASCII] tag)
For that reason, i will no longer be posting any ASCII on WOT, but instead here (http://nifflas.lpchip.nl/index.php?topic=3219) (hopefully the mods will make an [ASCII] tag)
That was a fast ASCII tag creation. :P
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 23, 2010, 18:52:25
That's it, I'm giving up on this place. I will no longer be posting any ASCII art, only to have some half-brained idiot who lives in his parents' cellar delete it so that he can laugh at how angry he can make me. It's just pathetic, and I sincerely hope that whoever did this ends their days as a failure, after wasting their life winding people up for laughs.

[/overreaction]
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: pumpkin on April 23, 2010, 19:05:34
I wrote my name REAL big so everyone can see it!! Hip hip hooray! ALSO TOTPD!
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Yukabacera on April 23, 2010, 21:56:22
We got trolled AGAIN!

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Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: pumpkin on April 24, 2010, 04:28:24
Yes I know... Hey I found your thing by the way! What's the secret?
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Yoeri on April 24, 2010, 11:52:56
Oh what now almost everything is gone!
damn troll!

meh
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 24, 2010, 17:55:28
you do realize that by expressing your displeasure you are feeding the troll right

at least i think that's how that whole deal works
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: minmay on April 24, 2010, 18:21:13
You people can't honestly tell me you didn't expect this...

anyway, if someone wants to replicate WoT's coding I can host it on my website and make it private
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: pumpkin on April 24, 2010, 21:24:49
PLEASE DO THIS. I hate it when shi$ like that happens.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 24, 2010, 21:41:13
yeah but who's going to recode world of text 9________________________9

javascript is pretty awful, especially when factoring in different browsers' interpretations of it
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 24, 2010, 22:15:18
it would probably be very easy to code; in fact, I think that even I could write a standalone .exe version of this, and with a reasonable level of success, which is hard for me.

not that I'm saying I'll do it, since I don't want to disappoint loads of people if (IF) I find out that I can't do it.

still, I might give it a shot. I'll start experimenting with some stuff now, and I'll report back if it looks like it won't follow the usual trend of "it's made by Jim, therefore it'll get almost finished then DIE".

P.S. If I get the flash runtime for MMF2, I could host it on a website, but £60 is a lot of money...
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: AClockworkLemon on April 24, 2010, 22:28:02
I copied/pasted the source for the WOT and all it's jqueries into the appropriate folders, but it doesn't work. I've attached a .zip of the whle thing. if i'm missing something, tell me
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Dataflashsabot on April 24, 2010, 23:33:28
Probably referrer checking, and anyways you'd need the server code if you wanted to host it yourself otherwise what's the point?
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: AClockworkLemon on April 25, 2010, 00:52:20
I don't want to host it myself, i though others could look at the code to see how it worked C)p
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 25, 2010, 00:58:10
so like good luck writing the server side and stuff
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: AClockworkLemon on April 25, 2010, 02:01:44
so like good luck writing the server side and stuff

I have no plans on doing so, as mentioned above :/
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 25, 2010, 02:19:48
no i mean for whoever is going to do it
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: AClockworkLemon on April 25, 2010, 03:43:06
Ah, right. Yeah, i sure do feel sorry for them
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: minmay on April 25, 2010, 15:27:52
It wasn't actually a serious suggestion...
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 25, 2010, 19:39:46
It wasn't actually a serious suggestion...

WHAT?! but I've started already!
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: pumpkin on April 26, 2010, 06:41:59
YEAH! Keep on keepin on jimj!
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 26, 2010, 19:31:05
YEAH! Keep on keepin on jimj!
Status Update
************
Currently Functioning:

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In Progress/Sorta Working:

-
Suggested Ideas: (yes, I'm asking you to suggest stuff)

************
Estimated time to complete: >4 weeks
Probability of finishing at all: ~70%
Current Total Event Count: 53 (client) 15 (server)
************
I will be updating this.
************
WORD OF WARNING: this is the largest project I have ever attempted, so please don't be too expectant of me to finish this. I really don't wan't to disappoint loads of people.
Everything seems to be going fine at the minute, but I have been programming since I was 7 (nearly 8 years) and I know from experience that "the first 90% of the job takes the first 10% of the time, the other 10% takes the other 90%".
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on April 26, 2010, 19:58:02
If you're really developing a World of Text clone... for the love of God, I beg you to include a "Go To" function so I can go directly to an specified X-Y location. Scrolling manually to (-20, 20) isn't fun X)  Bookmark support would be even better, but just the Go To function would be more than enough.

Also, it would be awesome if you could select and copy entire blocks of text from/to the clipboard. If this is too much to ask, the ability to copy/paste a fixed length block (e.g., a row of 10 characters) would be fine.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 26, 2010, 21:29:38
1:...include a "Go To" function so I can go directly to an specified X-Y location.  
2:Bookmark support...
3:select and copy entire blocks of text from/to the clipboard.

1:Already thought of.
2:Good idea, I'll add that.
3:That comes as standard anyway with the object I'm using.
EDIT:But it will be difficult to program the overtype for that, as you are effectively typing lots of keys at once.

---

project seems to be going well, prob of finishing now 70%
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: minmay on April 27, 2010, 02:19:08
By the way, if you actually manage to finish that and the server code, I should clarify that I am more than willing to host it.  It wasn't a serious suggestion, but it wasn't sarcasm either!
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: smeagle on April 27, 2010, 08:50:36
 :D :D
awesome.

Does it download what others have written?
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: AClockworkLemon on April 27, 2010, 10:09:17
WOW! go jimj! i'll be cheering you on all the way! C)p
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Yukabacera on April 27, 2010, 11:26:19
Lange Anna APPROVES!

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Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 27, 2010, 17:10:44
:D :D
awesome.

Does it download what others have written?

It will, but at the moment, it just acts as a notepad.

Also, I will not be able to do the server side code; however, I have devised an alternative that will work quite well until I can find someone who knows Python.

Allow me to explain how this works:
every time you leave a position in the world, the program (client-side) saves all the text at that position and the current time. when another person arrives at that position, they send a request to everybody online for the text. The person with the most recent copy of the text sends it to that person.
The program also sends live updates to everybody else while you are typing, and so all records are constantly updated.

I know this method has obvious flaws, but it is only a temporary solution.

oh, and one more thing; the program does not support continuous scrolling, like the original; instead, it uses screens like in KS.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 27, 2010, 17:56:35
Also, I will not be able to do the server side code; however, I have devised an alternative that will work quite well until I can find someone who knows Python.

Allow me to explain how this works:
every time you leave a position in the world, the program (client-side) saves all the text at that position and the current time. when another person arrives at that position, they send a request to everybody online for the text. The person with the most recent copy of the text sends it to that person.
The program also sends live updates to everybody else while you are typing, and so all records are constantly updated.

so your alternative is a hack designed to work with someone else's server that doesn't support an efficient approach what


oh, and one more thing; the program does not support continuous scrolling, like the original; instead, it uses screens like in KS.

and there's no way to make it continuous!?
you do realize this is highly disadvantageous for ascii art or really any sufficiently large construction requiring details spread between screens right

of course, if there's absolutely no way to make it efficient in your mmf2 or whatever sure have screens 9__________9
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 27, 2010, 23:23:31
so your alternative is a hack designed to work with someone else's server that doesn't support an efficient approach what

and there's no way to make it continuous!?
you do realize this is highly disadvantageous for ascii art or really any sufficiently large construction requiring details spread between screens right

Thank you very much for those kind words of support.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: AClockworkLemon on April 27, 2010, 23:26:28
Monkey, i can see where you are coming from, however i despise your negative attitude towards (almost) everything. Sure, point out the faults in the system, but realize that it is only a temporary solution, and that jimj isn't doing it just for himself, but for the whole nifforum WoT community. [/lecture]
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 28, 2010, 01:51:14
dude i'm not criticizing him he even acknowledged that it's a bad approach i'm asking a serious question why is he doing it like this is the server he is using really that bad o_________o
as for the second part i'm asking another serious question is there really no way to do it and making sure he knows that there's a very good reason to make it continuous

also, pointing out the faults in a system shouldn't be regarded as offensive
and yes i realize that he's doing it for the community i'm not asking him to stop i'm asking him to please make it better if he has the power to do so ;)

also acwl i ask you this: what attitude do you mean that i don't throw enough "how wonderful" into my questions or that i'm too critical of the system or whatever because i don't really think faulting a system for its incapabilities should be regarded as offensive or anything 9___________9
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Salmoneous on April 28, 2010, 07:41:16
Monkey, i can see where you are coming from, however i despise your negative attitude towards (almost) everything. Sure, point out the faults in the system, but realize that it is only a temporary solution, and that jimj isn't doing it just for himself, but for the whole nifforum WoT community. [/lecture]

You're the one with the attitude.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Pick Yer Poison on April 28, 2010, 07:58:23
Monkey, i can see where you are coming from, however i despise your negative attitude towards (almost) everything. Sure, point out the faults in the system, but realize that it is only a temporary solution, and that jimj isn't doing it just for himself, but for the whole nifforum WoT community. [/lecture]
QFT
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: AClockworkLemon on April 28, 2010, 08:41:27
Monkey, ...bla... WoT community. [/lecture]
You're the one with the attitude.

For sure. i have to apologize for that, it was late and i was unusually grumpy. Sure i get grumpy, but that would have to be an all-time high of grumpieness..... is that even a word? :huh:

Anyways, yeah.......
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on April 28, 2010, 14:09:36
Hey, jimj, I've just thought of something... what about a "paint mode" in which you select a character and then start painting continuosly by using the arrow keys or clicking with the mouse? It would be like FSDPC (a REALLY old text-mode screen design program), where you could press ESC and a character, like the ASCII char 219 (solid block), and then just move the cursor across the screen while painting a line.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: minmay on April 28, 2010, 16:22:30
Great, now WoT itself is down.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on April 28, 2010, 21:40:00
Hey, jimj, I've just thought of something... what about a "paint mode" in which you select a character and then start painting continuosly by using the arrow keys or clicking with the mouse? It would be like FSDPC (a REALLY old text-mode screen design program), where you could press ESC and a character, like the ASCII char 219 (solid block), and then just move the cursor across the screen while painting a line.

hmm...It could work...
*adds to ideas list*

also, I am looking for ideas for a name for the program as well. "YWoT Clone" as I've been calling it sounds terrible, and is unpronounceable without spelling it out.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Yukabacera on April 28, 2010, 22:56:25
Here's some names:

Lange Anna's Super-Awesome Multiplayer Notepad Thing
jimj316's Writing Pad of Doom
The ASCII Showcase, courtesy of jimj316
Sprunkeldunkel Text-Thing

No, I'm not serious.

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Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Mr. Monkey on April 28, 2010, 23:09:27
yttrium is pronounceable and so is ywot
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on May 02, 2010, 12:07:02
MASSIVE CHANGE IN STUFF: Jamie just released a MMF2 server extention, so I can now program the server-side code! However, this effectively doubles my workload, so:
Time to complete:Now ~4 weeks
Probability of finishing: +5% on whatever it was (can't remember)
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: AClockworkLemon on May 02, 2010, 12:36:06
AWSMOE! I can't wait for this!
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on May 07, 2010, 23:05:05
ohhhh man... this is going slowly.
I'd say I'm suffering from artist's block, but that wouldn't make sense.
programmer's block then.

tell me to shut up and finish this.
c'mon guys. pep talk tiem.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on May 07, 2010, 23:31:39
Go jimj, GO! The city needs you!
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: smeagle on May 08, 2010, 11:01:24
shut up and finish this.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Yukabacera on May 08, 2010, 12:02:12
If you finish this, I'll make you some popcorn! With butter!

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Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on May 08, 2010, 13:40:20
right, first simultaneous test of client and server...

(will update with results)

12:52- AAAARGH STUPID WINDOWS KEEPS BLOCKING THE SERVER
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: AClockworkLemon on May 08, 2010, 14:03:58
Ooh, ouch. I think you can disable that in the control panel. don't know, haven't used XP for a while
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on May 08, 2010, 14:11:47
Sounds like the Windows Firewall is blocking incoming connections to port 6121. You can either disable the firewall completely or make an exception rule for that TCP port:

Security Center -> Windows Firewall -> Exceptions tab -> Add port
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on May 08, 2010, 14:25:40
"Error; you do not have sufficient rights to open port 6121.
Please contact your administrator"

"Error; you do not have sufficient rights to unblock a program from Microsoft Windows Security.
Please contact your administrator"

I AM THE ADMINISTRATOR! WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?!

Furthermore, the thing I've been dreading for months has happened:

"STOP:0x0000001

Disk Quota Exceeded. No more files can be written to drive C: under the account JIMSLAP/Jim.

4GB Allowance
4GB Used
100% Usage

***DISK LOCK ENGAGED AT 3GB

Please delete 1GB of files to disengage the disk lock."

This means that I am now forced to choose 1GB of my stuff and delete it through the BIOS, else I will not even be allowed back into Windows.

I hate XP.

EDIT:Don't worry, panic over, I just glitched my disk into thinking it was empty.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on May 08, 2010, 14:56:59
Really strange... Did you try booting in fail-safe mode (F8) and logging into the system using the built-in "Administrator" account? It should show up at the XP start-up screen in fail-safe mode (that is, if you didn't disable it manually). Maybe you can disable disk quotas and configure the Windows Firewall that way. Also, you could check if your normal user account is a member of the "Administrators" group (Start -> Run -> "control userpasswords2").
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on May 08, 2010, 15:02:52
don't worry, It's fixed now.
and I am a member of the administrators group, but as it turns out, there is another hidden group of users called "NT AUTHORITY" which is higher up than me. I cannot access either of these accounts.

the problem of the windows firewall still remains, though.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Vegetal Gibber on May 08, 2010, 15:16:36
Looks like a problem with the system's security policies. You can use Gpedit.msc to modify these policies. However, if you use XP Home you'll have to do it via the Registry Editor:

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/resetfwpol.htm

Don't forget to make a backup of your project... just in case something goes wrong (it shouldn't, but you never know).
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on May 13, 2010, 19:20:14
Program's going well (ish)

I just found out that I have to put a "Terms of Usage" agreement that details all the rules, else some things might happen then I get sued by Americans (I think)

Here's it so far:
The point of this, I believe, is so that if someone in America breaks the rules, but they deny it, the laws of America allow them to sue me. For this reason, I have to outline the rules beforehand. I just copied+pasted most of this stuff from the UAs of websites, so please suggest something I should add/remove/modify before I submit it.

yay...bureaucracy ftw...

EDIT: I just heard that this may not be true, but I better put this in anyway (better safe than sorry)
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Yukabacera on May 13, 2010, 19:43:45
Damn, more legal stuff.

But yeah, I agree to all those rules, I won't spam or post links to no-no websites.

Can we still write Junipr0n fanfics, though?

And if I do break the law (unlikely, but meh) I don't know how the "resulting legal proceedings" will be carried out under the laws of the UK, since I don't live there.  :P2

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Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on May 13, 2010, 20:11:43
Can we still write Junipr0n fanfics, though?
The stuff I got told to say was "no extreme or under-age pornographic content" so I guess that depends on how old Juni is. (good luck on finding that out, considering she's been every age from 4 to 976)

And I don't know what the bit about the laws of the UK have got to do with it either. It just said "...and resulting legal proceedings are held under the law that the media work was created in...".
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Razzorman on May 20, 2010, 13:00:56
How about this: Juni refers to the name of the sprite, and/or the character in Nifflas original story "The machine". All other third party uses of the name Juni are not accounted for, and are the property of said third party.

The player character in KS really doesn't have a name. Juni is just the name that Niff used, and it kind of stuck.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Dataflashsabot on May 20, 2010, 14:57:35
Can we still write Junipr0n fanfics, though?
I guess that depends on how old Juni is. (good luck on finding that out, considering she's been every age from 4 to 976)
In that case, she's just turned 18. (http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-pervert.gif)
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: LimeLemon on May 20, 2010, 17:23:49
Uhh, what? Lolicon is only illegal in the UK.
Oh, wait...
The stuff I got told to say was "no extreme or under-age pornographic content" so I guess that depends on how old Juni is. (good luck on finding that out, considering she's been every age from 4 to 976)
Well they probably meant cp. Loli should be fine. If you are outside of UK.

Oh, wait, again... There is actually something called the Official Forum Rules! Enjoy your spambotban.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Razzorman on May 20, 2010, 17:54:21
Uhh, what? Lolicon is only illegal in the UK.
Oh, wait...
The stuff I got told to say was "no extreme or under-age pornographic content" so I guess that depends on how old Juni is. (good luck on finding that out, considering she's been every age from 4 to 976)
Well they probably meant cp. Loli should be fine. If you are outside of UK.
Wow. I can't think of a single worse way to defend that... Seriously, just... :sigh:

"Uhh what? It doesn't matter if she might be underage! Pedophilic art is still technically legal in a lot of places! Therefor it must be allowed!"
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Dataflashsabot on May 20, 2010, 17:57:14
Yes, lolicon is illegal, and for a very good reason. That's why I said 18. 9_9
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: jimj316 on May 20, 2010, 18:25:13
people, let's calm this down before the topic gets locked.
(anyway, I see no reason why loli should be illegal. not that I'm in to that sort of stuff.)

Your next task, should you choose to accept it:
I need a good fixed width font. It needs to be easily readable at a small size.
One font I was looking at was "Monofur" (google it) but I turned it down because it gets blurry at small sizes.
I would do this myself, but exams blah blah.

EDIT:I recommend dafont.com for searching for fonts.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: LimeLemon on May 20, 2010, 18:42:20
Yes, lolicon is illegal, and for a very good reason.
Tell me your very good reason.
CP/Pedophilia is illegal because people under 18 can't judge for themselves blah, adults forcing them to blah.
Loli is drawn characters. No one is harmed in the making of it.
This 18+ thing is not very... uh... genomtänkt. It has many flaws (like that you sometimes, if the person is about 18 years, can't tell if the person is over or under). But that's for another sory.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Razzorman on May 20, 2010, 18:46:09
genomtänkt.
Thought through is fine.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Dataflashsabot on May 20, 2010, 18:59:01
LL, you have a very good point, I just find it a thing hard to defend.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Razzorman on May 20, 2010, 19:06:33
Tell me your very good reason
CP/Pedophilia is illegal because people under 18 can't judge for themselves blah, adults forcing them to blah.
Loli is drawn characters. No one is harmed in the making of it.
It's about having sex with children. That's the very good reason.

All that semi logical fuzz doesn't hold up. I can do that too, look:
"Its fine for me to commit brutal homicide in video games, but reading lolicon is wrong?"
What you just said is akin to "Pedophilia is only bad if its rape."

It has many flaws (like that you sometimes, if the person is about 18 years, can't tell if the person is over or under).
Well, you can always ask. :/

Man, I miss the debate board.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Dataflashsabot on May 20, 2010, 19:34:08
I, too, wish the debate board would return.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: Yukabacera on May 20, 2010, 19:41:48
Uhh, didn't anyone notice I asked "Can we write Junipr0n fanfics?" And this won't be anything serious, this is kind of like that "WaDF ball and Juni's frontal bodily orifice" thing. No drawing involved.

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Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: minmay on May 20, 2010, 20:41:58
What you just said is akin to "Pedophilia is only bad if its rape."
So are you saying that simply being a pedophile is bad?  People can't control what they're sexually attracted to.  You may want to rethink your logic.  Unless you define "pedophile" as "someone who sexually interacts with prepubescent children," rather than "someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children."  (And pretty much any sexual interaction with prepubescent children is rape, since they can't give informed consent.)

And there's a huge difference between what "lolicon" usually means and what "child pornography" usually means.  I would never want to argue for or against "lolicon" because you can never be sure what the other side thinks lolicon is.
Title: Re: World Of Text
Post by: LPChip on May 20, 2010, 21:14:42
I'm going to lock this topic, because I fear it gives our younger forumers bad ideas about 18+ stuff.

Things are straying off-topic, so if you want to prevent a good topic from getting a lock, don't go off-topic.