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Title: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: SecretGlitch on April 04, 2010, 06:34:23
Unfortunately, I have canceled my older project Amidst the Clouds. For all of you who were looking forward to that, I'll probably post the unfinished beta of it sometime (it's got some decent length to it, but I wont continue ATC unless like everyone ever goes into a manic depression because it was canceled). However, on the plus side, I'm scrapping ATC's parts to help me make my newest project, the actual sequel to Dark Sea.

The level involves Juni trying to go to the Lab of Professor Nuance via his submarine, the Archetype 1, which mysteriously is sitting out at sea, unattended. Juni has to go through many satellite underwater bases in order to safely make it to Nuance's main lab way down at the ocean floor. The level has a lot of the feel of Dark Sea, but also an enhanced influence of AUA.

(On the first screen you can already see I'm re-using the boat from Amidst the Clouds  :P2)
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: Salmoneous on April 04, 2010, 07:37:57
I was really looking forward to admist the clouds, good that you will release the beta.
This sounds very good as well. Looks good I also like how you used the boat as a CO.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 04, 2010, 07:42:59
Oh dear, here we go again. :P
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: SecretGlitch on April 04, 2010, 07:49:44
Quote from: Purple Pineapple on April 04, 2010, 07:42:59
Oh dear, here we go again. :P

Would you prefer Safety 3? :crazy:
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 04, 2010, 09:18:33
Quote from: SecretGlitch on April 04, 2010, 07:49:44
Quote from: Purple Pineapple on April 04, 2010, 07:42:59
Oh dear, here we go again. :P
Would you prefer Safety 3? :crazy:
I would prefer to throw Safety 3 in a 300-meter-deep hole and bury it in tons upon tons of molten metal!
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: PeppyHare4000 on April 04, 2010, 16:50:57
Aw yeah, Dark Sea 2. Im looking forward for this, it looks good.

MAKE A SAFETY 3, I DARE YOU  :nuts:

Basically, We got a good level maker here.

@Purple Pineapple: Would you prefer Ascent to death's sequel, The Descent to Hell  >)
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 05, 2010, 00:25:51
Quote from: PeppyHare4000 on April 04, 2010, 16:50:57
@Purple Pineapple: Would you prefer Ascent to death's sequel, The Descent to Hell  >)
You must surely get some enjoyment out of threatening me with to-be insane levels..
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: PeppyHare4000 on April 05, 2010, 03:26:24
Quote from: Purple Pineapple on April 05, 2010, 00:25:51
Quote from: PeppyHare4000 on April 04, 2010, 16:50:57
@Purple Pineapple: Would you prefer Ascent to death's sequel, The Descent to Hell  >)
You must surely get some enjoyment out of threatening me with to-be insane levels..

Just seeing what you prefer...

Safety 3 or Descent to Hell >)
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 05, 2010, 04:24:49
I think I'd prefer we stick to the topic at hand.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: PeppyHare4000 on April 22, 2010, 13:20:18
By the way, Can you make a normal or easy mode for the game, i wonder how you can make a level at the difficulty of normal or easier, I noticed you like to make hard levels. Anyways, This will be awesome :D
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: SecretGlitch on April 22, 2010, 16:17:02
Quote from: PeppyHare4000 on April 22, 2010, 13:20:18
By the way, Can you make a normal or easy mode for the game, i wonder how you can make a level at the difficulty of normal or easier, I noticed you like to make hard levels. Anyways, This will be awesome :D

I'm sure a lot of people would love me to make an easier KS level, but I just love a good challenge.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: Talps on April 23, 2010, 00:34:04
Making an easier level is a challenge all in itself, I've found.

But I played through Dark Sea today and really, really enjoyed it! T'was very pretty, and quite atmospheric. Only I never got down that big pit in the middle... :/
Apart from the lasers at the end, which were down-right fiendish, it was very fun, and I definitely look forward to playing a sequel! (I also look forward to being able to spell 'definitely' on the first attempt.) Your submarine looks great.

Quote
Juni must use this submarine to navigate her way to the evil underwater lab of Dr. Subtle
I wonder how that'll work...
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 23, 2010, 01:41:00
Quote from: Talps on April 23, 2010, 00:34:04
Making an easier level is a challenge all in itself, I've found.
1. Find an enemy that barely moves at all.
2. Place one of those on every two screens. Make sure that it is in a completely open space.
3. Put a save point on every four screens.
4. ????
5. Profit!

And I speak from experience. :P
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: PeppyHare4000 on April 23, 2010, 03:51:07
Quote from: SecretGlitch on April 22, 2010, 16:17:02
Quote from: PeppyHare4000 on April 22, 2010, 13:20:18
By the way, Can you make a normal or easy mode for the game, i wonder how you can make a level at the difficulty of normal or easier, I noticed you like to make hard levels. Anyways, This will be awesome :D

I'm sure a lot of people would love me to make an easier KS level, but I just love a good challenge.

Same here. I don't think a level is complete without something hard to do in your way :shifty:
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: SecretGlitch on October 04, 2010, 03:29:45
BIG BUMP.

Yeah, I'm still making this. The main post has been updated with new screenies and plot.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: Talps on October 04, 2010, 11:42:07
This is good news.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: PeppyHare4000 on October 04, 2010, 13:31:53
im hoping this doesn't get scrapped. The first dark sea was good so don't quit on the second if that is okay with you.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: yohji on October 04, 2010, 17:50:24
Yay, great news!
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: SecretGlitch on October 05, 2010, 01:26:54
Quote from: PeppyHare4000 on October 04, 2010, 13:31:53
im hoping this doesn't get scrapped. The first dark sea was good so don't quit on the second if that is okay with you.

I ain't plannin' on it. I've been busy as a beaver game projects but I've found that working on Dark Sea 2 was much more enjoyable after all that time I spent away from it.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: SecretGlitch on June 21, 2011, 23:01:28
BIG BUMP

I know I'm dragging this thread as if I were to create a zombie from a rotten corpse, but it didn't feel right to post level progress in the Beta thread. But anyhoo, I have been working on this, and have more or less approached a half-way point. Just wanted to share a few screenshots for those interested.

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/kintobar/DS2screen4.png)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/kintobar/DS2screen3.png)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/kintobar/DS2pstransition.png)
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: PeppyHare4000 on June 21, 2011, 23:30:01
 :D
Anyways, i am hoping you put...
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

I liked the original dark sea and tested the demo. It had a bit more challenge.
If you need a beta tester, ill beta test... :)
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: SecretGlitch on June 21, 2011, 23:37:09
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

But as far as beta testing I currently don't need anyone else yet, but in the future I may seek it.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: egomassive on June 22, 2011, 03:52:22
This level continues to look top notch. I thought the beta was as far as you planned to take this level, so these new developments are a nice surprise.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: SecretGlitch on June 22, 2011, 04:12:42
I thought it would be too, but I just missed working on it after another hiatus and now I've dug myself in so deep it'd be criminal to stop now.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: PeppyHare4000 on June 22, 2011, 04:40:38
Quote from: SecretGlitch on June 22, 2011, 04:12:42
I thought it would be too, but I just missed working on it after another hiatus and now I've dug myself in so deep it'd be criminal to stop now.
YES!!!

(Codec goes on: Hey boss, he isn't going to cancel it after all)
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: SecretGlitch on June 27, 2011, 03:42:54
About two-thirds done with the level, and I've decided to make custom music for it too! It's ending up being exceptionally longer than I planned, for an experienced player it'll probably take over an hour to complete.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: PeppyHare4000 on June 27, 2011, 11:33:36
Quote from: SecretGlitch on June 27, 2011, 03:42:54
About two-thirds done with the level, and I've decided to make custom music for it too! It's ending up being exceptionally longer than I planned, for an experienced player it'll probably take over an hour to complete.

i guess i am in for a good time when playing this level...
An hour to beat it regularly or an hour to beat it reguarly and secretly...
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: SecretGlitch on June 27, 2011, 16:07:38
To beat it regularly. Any secret-finding should take longer.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: SecretGlitch on July 10, 2011, 02:09:01
Man this level is long, but it's about 85% done now! :D

Here's a final set of preview shots.

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/kintobar/ds2screen6.png)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/kintobar/ds2screen5.png)
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: SecretGlitch on August 04, 2011, 23:21:34
Hello all!

Dark Sea 2 is 95% done. But I think I've gone and made it just a little too hard overall. Unfortunately, I didn't really want to call this a Lunatic level due to the limited appeal of such things, and I've put a lot of effort into this level.

As such, I'm looking for a fairly skilled beta tester who is a good judge of difficulty to play what is basically an almost complete version of this level to get some outside impressions and insight on this. It could take a good few hours to get through this level too, so it's going to take some effort on the beta tester's part.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: PeppyHare4000 on August 05, 2011, 03:18:46
Quote from: SecretGlitch on August 04, 2011, 23:21:34
Hello all!

Dark Sea 2 is 95% done. But I think I've gone and made it just a little too hard overall. Unfortunately, I didn't really want to call this a Lunatic level due to the limited appeal of such things, and I've put a lot of effort into this level.

As such, I'm looking for a fairly skilled beta tester who is a good judge of difficulty to play what is basically an almost complete version of this level to get some outside impressions and insight on this. It could take a good few hours to get through this level too, so it's going to take some effort on the beta tester's part.

i will do it...
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: SecretGlitch on August 05, 2011, 15:55:00
Okay Peppy, I'll send it your way.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: GrayFace on October 02, 2011, 08:02:31
Uh, looks like I should pay attention to this board. If you're still in need of beta testers, I'm in :)
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: PeppyHare4000 on November 15, 2011, 19:13:44
It has been a while since SecretGlitch has worked on this...

He said it was 95% Done. I would be annoyed if he quit here, he would of been so close.
I tested this back in August and it is now November. :(
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: PeppyHare4000 on December 31, 2011, 06:26:59
Never mind...
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: SecretGlitch on January 04, 2012, 03:15:11
Sorry for inactivity, guys. College and other projects have taken precedence and I haven't gotten around to it as of late. I might try to get it out before the end of winter break.
Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea 2
Post by: Widget on January 04, 2012, 09:09:23
In your own time, don't let yourself feel pressured into working on it. It'd be great to see it finished but other things have to take precedence over KS sometimes  ;)