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Released Games => FiNCK => Topic started by: LPChip on February 08, 2010, 17:20:17

Title: speculation topic
Post by: LPChip on February 08, 2010, 17:20:17
As always, lets speculate about what the new game could be! :)

Based on This topic (http://nifflas.lpchip.nl/index.php?topic=2708.0) it could be that the game is called Find Love.

So, for a moment, lets assume the game is called Find love, what would it be for a game?

Will it be a platformer? Or perhaps a shooter? Or a ballgame? Or strictly puzzlebased?

Options, options, options! :)

If you find anything new, be sure to report it in this topic too! :) Like new images/info/etc...

All we know that Nifflas needs a level editor for it, which possibly (unverified) will be released to the public too.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: AA on February 08, 2010, 18:16:23
Find Love is this short game
(http://nifflas.ni2.se/content/screenshots%20miscgames/Game%20Jam.png)

I doubt this new game will be related to it, since Nifflas wasn't the game designer, but who knows...
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Razzorman on February 08, 2010, 20:45:49
Find Love (http://nifflas.ni2.se/content/games/Game%20Jam%201.zip) is on the main page, under "Miscellaneous" (http://nifflas.ni2.se/?page=Miscellaneous). This is obviously not that game.

Although, you might want to make a board for Find Love (http://nifflas.ni2.se/content/games/Game%20Jam%201.zip) too.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Nifflas on February 08, 2010, 23:17:29
Ah, no, this is not Find Love. It's actually a re-imagination of a game I used to play and love as a child, so you'll get game mechanics similar to a game you have already played but with a completely different set of puzzles and approaches to solve them.

Nothing innovative in other words, but hopefully a very enjoyable game at least. I'm beginning to think about an online database for levels as well that can handle all my games with level editors (right now it's Saira, KS, The Mushroom Engine, Game mods, and soon this new game). I think that'd encourage more editing for more games than just KS. The only thing that scares me is that I'd have to learn MySQL.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: RunMan on February 09, 2010, 00:17:25
I bet that MySQL is way easier than programming games :)
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Purple Pineapple on February 09, 2010, 02:26:37
Ah, speculation time.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Shawnachu on February 09, 2010, 02:51:23
Nothing to base any assumptions off as of yet; gonna wait for J to leak some info before I start guessing
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Purple Pineapple on February 09, 2010, 04:03:16
Wait. I got it. It's The Turtle Philosopher Tetris!
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: LimeLemon on February 09, 2010, 09:26:39
You should really make a board for Find Love btw. I just tried it out and went wtf.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Salmoneous on February 09, 2010, 22:08:22
Nifflas said something about a bird did he not?

Will it be a platformer? Or perhaps a shooter? Or a ballgame? Or strictly puzzlebased?

ballgame? never heard of that genre before.  :P2
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Purple Pineapple on February 10, 2010, 03:56:13
Nifflas said something about a bird did he not?
you wish. (http://nifflas.lpchip.nl/index.php?topic=2283.msg26105#msg26105) :P
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Vinterrun on February 10, 2010, 16:35:12
I think it could be a puzzle-platformer with a bird. Yay
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Evil on February 11, 2010, 02:29:53
I think that its a girl exploring a environment, and it also comes with a level editor :)
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Pumpkinbot on February 11, 2010, 03:01:29
I think that its a girl exploring a environment, and it also comes with a level editor :)
Either that, or a game where the main character is a ball. Maybe blue. :P
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Saml on February 11, 2010, 03:38:54
I think it's gonna be a mix between Fallout 3, Wii Sports, and Pixeljunk: Eden.  8D
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Well on February 11, 2010, 07:19:30
ITT: We accomplish nothing at all. :)

[mod]Added the acronym of itt for as far as I can find out what it means.[/mod]
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Evil on February 11, 2010, 16:49:43
I think that its a girl exploring a environment, and it also comes with a level editor :)
Either that, or a game where the main character is a ball. Maybe blue. :P

 :crazy:

i want the pteranodon back!  >(
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: lilmanjs16 on February 11, 2010, 23:05:49
this will most likely be a platformer, that isn't bloody, has very good peaceful music and features somebody exploring but there will be amazing graphics and very cool puzzles :D
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Purple Pineapple on February 12, 2010, 06:31:51
Wait. It's a game. The graphics are 2d. They are made in another program besides MMF. The code is made with MMF. The window size will be 600*360. There will be the option to switch control keys. It will run on windows, but throw some messed up error on Vista/7. There will be EXACTLY 7 characters. One will be an enemy. The thickframe and maximize buttons will be disabled. The music will be external. Nifflas will commit suicide halfway through making the game, and then rise from the dead and finish it as a zombie.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: The stickman on February 13, 2010, 05:50:33
ITT: We accomplish nothing at all. :)

[mod]Added the acronym of itt for as far as I can find out what it means.[/mod]
Actually, I think it means "I think that..." far as I can tell... but they seem to be interchangeable in every thread I've seen it in...

o_0
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: AA on February 13, 2010, 10:31:26
^ It generally means 'In This Thread' (or in this case 'In This Topic'). I've never seen it used to mean I Think That, but I suppose it exists.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Exp HP on February 25, 2010, 06:46:56
Here's what we've heard so far.
Ah, no, this is not Find Love. It's actually a re-imagination of a game I used to play and love as a child, so you'll get game mechanics similar to a game you have already played but with a completely different set of puzzles and approaches to solve them.

Nothing innovative in other words, but hopefully a very enjoyable game at least. [...]
It won't be Juni, she's too nice and harmless. To me, this game is a break I need from my seriousness and deeper meaning, so it has to be a character who have a personality that lets him/her run around and e.g. throw bombs at random creatures and enemies.

Any ideas?
[...]the character width/height relationship is 1:2 and can carry objects above his/her head.
As I alluded in the other thread, based on this stuff alone, I'd say Super Mario Bros. 2 (a.k.a. Doki Doki Panic).

But then there's this post...
I wouldn't call it violent [...]. The game is very harmless.

[...] I by some reason I feel like I have to do something small, silly, funny nonsense that doesn't really mean anything. [...] The gameplay mechanics are really neat, and unlike Knytt Stories, every object interact with each other in a different way, which means that quite complex puzzles can be accomplished with just a few objects. This should be perfect for level editing![...]
DDP/SMB2 hardly had any interesting or puzzle-suited interactions like that.  I can't really think of any game that fits everything that Nifflas has said.

Anyone have any more ideas?  Maybe it's a more obscure game?
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Purple Pineapple on February 25, 2010, 06:48:59
Or maybe Nifflas isn't trying to replicate another game. :O
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Exp HP on February 25, 2010, 07:14:21
Or maybe Nifflas isn't trying to replicate another game. :O

It's actually a re-imagination of a game I used to play and love as a child[...]

Nothing innovative in other words, but hopefully a very enjoyable game at least. [...]

But then again, maybe a "re-imagination" has more room for deviation than a remake/demake/clone.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Comhon on February 26, 2010, 12:39:18
Probably there will be aviable to make lots of puzzles.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Vinterrun on March 01, 2010, 21:08:57
Hihi,
Nifflas I bet it`s a very funny feeling seeing a bunch of kiddies (me included) puzzling over something which could probably be something particular if something else which is probably made in a guessed direction is finally presented by you Sir!

Mhoa long sentece!
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Feline Monstrosity on March 23, 2010, 22:58:46
Will the new game be freeware like Nifflas' earlier small games, or commercial like his more recent releases? (More a question than speculation, but I didn't feel like making a new topic)
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Nifflas on March 23, 2010, 23:00:37
At the moment I'm making my best shot at living off game development. It won't be free, but as it is developed rapidly in just a few months the price tag will be low.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Zelakon on March 26, 2010, 02:58:31
At the moment I'm making my best shot at living off game development. It won't be free, but as it is developed rapidly in just a few months the price tag will be low.

I think it would be unfair if it was free.  Your games are so good that I'm sure we'd all pay for them if it was required.  I feel you should always charge for every game from now on, because regardless of what happens the community will have still benefitted immensely from your completely free back catalogue.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: ElMirador on April 12, 2010, 15:18:13
Another new game? great XD
so what kind is it? a platformer? Puzzle game? or a new kind?! X-P

BTW, i still didn't know how to play Find Love...
it always reminds me some FTG games ..OTZ
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Nifflas on April 12, 2010, 18:02:05
Info page (http://nifflas.ni2.se/?page=FiNCK)
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Feline Monstrosity on April 12, 2010, 18:18:14
And would that certain 8-bit game happen to be Doki Doki Panic (or Super Mario Bros. 2 as known in the West)?
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Nifflas on April 12, 2010, 18:29:14
Yes. Since I will sell the game I don't think I'm legally permitted to point out which games I'm taking inspiration from at an "official" place such as my website. If I've understood it right I'm allowed to say it in interviews, lectures and that sort of stuff, but I shouldn't refer to it in a fact sheet like a description of the game at my website.

I'll have to look into it though. Oh, and let's not forget I'm also taking inspiration from Lyle in Cube Sector.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 13, 2010, 01:11:18
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Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: the drowning darkness on April 14, 2010, 00:25:33
Quote
Oh, and let's not forget I'm also taking inspiration from Lyle in Cube Sector.
Heh, I was actually just about to ask that.

I've never actually completed Cube Sector, but people seem to love it; Maybe I should do that one of these days. :)
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 14, 2010, 00:56:53
Pay attention, people.
In this game, beta testing will work a bit differently from how it normally works. To explain the game itself, it's a platform game very inspired by Super Mario Bros 2 and Lyle in Cube Sector. You can apply for beta testing this game, and if you're accepted you get a copy for free.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: PONTO on April 14, 2010, 15:08:06
Lyle in Cube Sector is cool, but it has a couple of very bad game design decisions, in my opinion, which prevented me from ever beating it. In particular, I'm talking about not respawning with full health and the way too long way you have to go before you can try the final boss. Everytime.
Also, it did not explore the its full potential in terms of puzzles.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: AA on April 14, 2010, 16:20:35
^ I've usually found enough health on the way to the final boss, it was the boss that killed me many times instead X)

Lyle in Cube Sector does have problems (I'd add the corridor with simply swarms of enemies to the list), and it could have been more, but I understand it was made in a very short time. They should have made an editor, even as a hack or something, but I guess the game doesn't have enough following for that, does it?

FiNCK looks like it will have none of those issues anyway, at least as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: Nifflas on April 14, 2010, 22:18:58
The difficulty and the "restarting from the beginning" is actually two aspects I loved about Lyle despite that I normally don't like that in games. The same thing really worked well in Spelunky too.

However, this game will be more "typical Nifflas game" in the way that you get to save very often and don't have lives.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: PONTO on April 16, 2010, 20:12:09
But starting without your health upgrades empty was too much. :P
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: AA on April 16, 2010, 21:26:21
^ But it was still way better than Metroid, where you restarted with 30 HP, no matter how many energy tanks you had collected (up to 900 HP I think). THAT was too much!

On topic: is it just me, or does the protagonist look like the purple WaDF ball with Juni's hair and... I don't know what kind of body?
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: PONTO on April 16, 2010, 22:51:31
I don't find the face similar to the purple ball from WaDF. This protagonist seems to me to have a very sad espression.
Title: Re: speculation topic
Post by: CheezyWEAPON on May 13, 2010, 08:06:37
I completely missed the beta testing, and I can't wait to play this game.

I hope there's a multiplayer option. Just imagine the chaos with four or so players on screen, tossing each other around and solving puzzles together.

I'd also like some bouncy bombs. (Bombs that bounce a little off the ground)

Like so:
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g222/cheezyweapon/Crapfanart/finkstack.png)

And have them wiggle and break loose after a while, so the player who picks up the last stack isn't bullying them.