If you don't mind, where's the post that ousts NES's and mine modship?Ya. But I sign up whoever hosts.
I am imposing a 7 day time limit on game days.
If you don't mind, where's the post that ousts NES's and mine modship?I think its too late now.
Which is why that was the very first reply I made 9_9If you don't mind, where's the post that ousts NES's and mine modship?I think its too late now.
Well. The game usually starts off with a "Day", Day 0 or Day 1. The "Day" ends when one person is lynched (recieves a majority of votes) or when the deadline is reached, then the user with most votes is lynched (usually). In this case, the deadline for one game "Day" is 7 real life days. After that comes "Night". Then all special roles send in their actions. The "Night" ends when all actions have been received or when the deadline is met.
Hope this clear things up for ya!
Might as well get the ball rolling...
I vote: Dataflashsabot
It is a random vote. That is what he/she meant with "Might as well get the ball rolling...".Might as well get the ball rolling...
I vote: Dataflashsabot
and why do you vote him. Even the answer "random vote" is good.
Im saving my vote for Dataflashsabot for now because mostly something happens when he plays Mafia.This post seems to explain why you haven't voted for Data. It gives the reason for withholding the vote on him because 'something happens when he plays mafia'. Quizzical, at least. Why would a proneness to 'make something happen' indicate scummyness or towniness? This question would be answerable if Peppy actually defines what she means by 'something happens'.
Ill change my mind when people are more suspicious to meThese are the utterances of a most classic Chaotic Neutral.
Hmmm... Peppy, might want to avoid saying things like that, unless you really want to be lynched.Out of pure interest in having more than one line of inquiry, what do you mean by that? What shouldn't Peppy be saying?
Im saving my vote for Dataflashsabot for now because mostly something happens when he plays Mafia.
Hmmm... Peppy, might want to avoid saying things like that, unless you really want to be lynched.Out of pure interest in having more than one line of inquiry, what do you mean by that? What shouldn't Peppy be saying?
Ill change my mind when people are more suspicious to me.sounds kind of scummy. Since Peppy is still somewhat new to this, I just wanted to point out that its those kind of things that make people sound like scum.
A random vote is not a scumtell. The mafia rarely has anything to gain from voting randomly.Im saving my vote for Dataflashsabot for now because mostly something happens when he plays Mafia.
Means random vote
Wait, what? [ etc...]Limelemon does seem rather quiet despite his exaggerations.
Don't just criticise Peppy. Give him a chance to improve. I don't want deadweight in the town.I apologise if I came off as over critical.
@Kaizoman, is it more likely in your opinion that Peppy's actions were a newb tell or a scum tell?All I was saying was that what Peppy said would make people assume he was a Mafia member, whether he is or not. I don't want new(ish) players getting lynched because they said something that was taken the wrong way.
Since Peppy is still somewhat new to this, I just wanted to point out that its those kind of things that make people sound like scum.My point being, Kaizoman, that you can't know if what Peppy said was a slip (he just said something that would make a townie sound like scum), or if he actually said something scummy because he's scum. The only possibility of you knowing this for sure is that you are scum.
As it is clear that you see at least some of Peppy's words at least somewhat scummy you most definitely should be poking at those things you see as scumtells, not trying to tell Peppy not to say such things, even if it is for her own good. For all you know, she might be scum, right?
I can't post much for a while. It would be nice if you don't lynch me for being inactive. C)
It looks like were going to lynch someone for being inactive, at least as a show of will.Do you guys agree that we should lynch someone D1 regardless of suspicion? Is it correct, is it in our interests in this instance to remove him who drags us down the most?
Kaizoman can either be mafia and he is trying to get me to say stuff that will make people suspicious of meIf that were true, I wouldn't be telling you not to say stuff.
My point being, Kaizoman, that you can't know if what Peppy said was a slip (he just said something that would make a townie sound like scum), or if he actually said something scummy because he's scum. The only possibility of you knowing this for sure is that you are scum.I never said I didn't think that Peppy could be scum, I just said that some things he says will make people assume he's scum. Personally, I want these games to be more of a challenge rather then a Win-The-First-Day game (though that couldn't exactly happen).
The fact that you didn't acknowledge the possibility that Peppy could be scum is weird, its too friendly, it comes in contradiction to what a selfish townie would do.
It would surely be interesting to see what Theiza would do if there was a plurality (as opposed to majority) lynch coming up soon.
I never said I didn't think that Peppy could be scum, I just said that some things he says will make people assume he's scum.You didn't accuse him of being scummy when he was being scummy.
Personally, I want these games to be more of a challenge rather then a Win-The-First-Day game (though that couldn't exactly happen).Wait. You didn't follow up a legitimate lead because you felt that it would be too easy for the town to find some scum D1? Is that correct?
i'm perhaps slow, but what is a plurality lynch?A plurality voting system is when the person with the most votes wins.
Why shouldn't we lynch you for being inactive?Well, mostly because of my reason for being inactive. (Which I forgot to post because I am so smart)
I decide to unvote:Dataflashsabot until more information develops.So basically, you are going to wait for a bandwagon to jump on? Why not try to gain some "information" on your own?
i'm perhaps slow, but what is a plurality lynch?A plurality voting system is when the person with the most votes wins.
A majority voting system is then the person with the most votes wins, with the added restriction that to win you need more than half of the votes (a majority of the votes).
It looks like we'll be having a majority system (first person to get half all the players' votes gets lynched) unless the time limit elapses, in which case the person with the most votes gets lynched, regardless if there's only 3 out of 7 people voting for him or her (or you).
@Theiza: Who do you think we should vote instead of you? Who is the most likely to be a better choice to lynch rather than yourself?
I decide to unvote:Dataflashsabot until more information develops.So basically, you are going to wait for a bandwagon to jump on? Why not try to gain some "information" on your own?
I'm very sorry sir, never been good at uprooting information. In fact, I'm downright horrible at it. I should probably take more classes in law or something.Pointless bashing.
But the fact remains, information, in any sense of the word, does not mean " follow the crowd"Of course it doesn't. Information is a verb. This brings us to an interesting point though. What do you mean by information?
who says i will? Have I voted for Theiza? I think not. So please, excuse my ignorance for the time being.You kind of implied it yourself, actually. I wasn't sure though, so I asked.
mochaalatteWhy? Can you explain your vote?
A decent start anyway.
unvote, vote Theiza
Then, @Kaizoman-Thats because I was replying to Lunar_Tick's suspicions.
All of your posts, with exempt of your random vote, have been defending Peppy.
Vote Update
Mochaalatte: (1) Theiza27
Budja (1) kaizoman666
Theiza27 (2) Lunar_Tick, Budja
5 to lynch.
Alive
theiza27
Mochaalatte
Budja
Limelemon
Peppyhare4000
Dataflashsabot
Razzorman
Lunar_Tick
kaizoman666
1 day left to vote. If you want to request an extension then feel free to do so.
Then, @Kaizoman-Thats because I was replying to Lunar_Tick's suspicions.
All of your posts, with exempt of your random vote, have been defending Peppy.
simply put, I looked back at the last few pages of replies and didn't see any from Mochaalatte so I chose him/her. Is that enough of a reason?Yeah. Inactivity is a good enough reason for a vote.
anyways... as advised, the first round of voting should be random... so I think I'd like to keep my original vote of Lunar_Tick (UNvote Mochaalatte) simply because of his/her devious underscore ;)The first couple of votes are usually random in the beginning of a day to start a discussion.
For how long?
@ Mod
Could you extend the day a little? I think there is still some discussion that we can get out of D1.
I never defended him before he was accused, I only gave him some help.Then, @Kaizoman-Thats because I was replying to Lunar_Tick's suspicions.
All of your posts, with exempt of your random vote, have been defending Peppy.
Yes, once or twice, but what about defending him before he was accused?
Maybe two or three days. Not too long.For how long?
@ Mod
Could you extend the day a little? I think there is still some discussion that we can get out of D1.
I agree with the extension.
I'm not unvoting LL.
Two new points:
1. Casting a random vote now is also scummy.
2. Theiza's vote on Moch was "accidental". Why the bold then?
can i ask why? :(
Peppy's reasoning sucks but makes a Peppy/Theiza pair very unlikely (assuming 2 scum).
Theiza's reason also sucks. Seriously, voting for posting too much :huh:.
3 days is fine for me.
I cannot read Peppy.Because he's Chaotic Neutral.
Limelemon is only passing off weak statements.I agree.
Data is non-committal.Where is Data?
Theiza is the best lynch. LL and Kaizo are next best.Why do you think theiza is best?
I just want to get through this day <_<Hm.
so my vote stands at Lunar_Tick (do i have to bold that again?) and it is no longer due to random reasoning... he/she i feel is guilty of over participation... which in my opo is as suspicious as anything else :mask:Wait, what? Is over participating even possible in a game where maximum participation benefits the town?
Where is Data?Data is here, and has a poor internet connection.
Limelemon, Dataflashsabot, and Razzorman are the only ones left with a vote.Your point being... ?
Peppy's reasoning sucks but makes a Peppy/Theiza pair very unlikely (assuming 2 scum).Oh no I don't think there any chance of a Theiza/Peppy pair at all. Maybe Peppy/Kaizo, but trying to pair D1 doesn't really work that well anyway, so I won't needlessly speculate any longer.
On a more general note, over participating definitely is less voteworthy than under participating. Even if only 10% of what I posted was useful, that would be more useful postage than what one gets out of someone who is inactive.
It seems to me very illogical to actively vote out the largest poster because his or her posts are too large.
I apologize... I didn't mean for my mentioning of Mochaalatte as a vote... I was just answering Lunar_Tick's question...
so i actually looked for reasoning... and could only find that mochaalatte had not posted in a few pages... so i voted them
i appear to not be doing any of those things... including finding scum... because clearly after the holidays i had to start defending myselfThat doesn't prohibit scum-finding at all.
I actually think they should, since they voted for inactivity, but she is now active.
He got the wagon rolling~Didn't I vote for theiza first?
and refused to stop it even after I told him to.~You never actually made a strong series of posts against the lynch of theiza.
He also had no good reason.This is very disputable.
~Razzor didn't actually clear up exactly why he voted Theiza.i appear to not be doing any of those things... including finding scum... because clearly after the holidays i had to start defending myselfThat doesn't prohibit scum-finding at all.
I vote: theiza27.
I doubt I'll be able to make any significant post for at least48 hours.24 hours.
You voted first, yes, but Budja was the one who went all OMG THEIZA INACTIVE STOP LURKING OR DIE OH NOW UR ACTIVE BUT I WONT CHANGE MY VOTE ANYWAY CUZ YOU ARE SCUMMY SCUM GO DIE EVERYONE VOTE THEIZA WE HAVE OBV-SCUM HURRRRRRRRHe got the wagon rolling~Didn't I vote for theiza first?
Anyway, the wagon wasn't really a random let's vote just for voting crazy wagon. Some votes on theiza were at least somewhat calculated. Although Peppy was totally random and Data's was probably more spontaneous than well-thought out.
~Razzor didn't actually clear up exactly why he voted Theiza.i appear to not be doing any of those things... including finding scum... because clearly after the holidays i had to start defending myselfThat doesn't prohibit scum-finding at all.
I vote: theiza27.
His quote of Theiza is a scum (or, with hindsight, a naive newbie) tell. A vote of such gravitas (albeit perceived gravitas) should be justified extensively should it not Razzor?
In other words, he just kept running over theiza for no reason and thought she was scummy for the slightest little things.Asking questions is how you find scum. You can't expect people not to do it. None of budja's questions were unreasonable either, so how did you know that thezia was town?
vote: Kaizoman, for consistently weak posting.Well, other people keep noticing scummy things before I do. It'd be kind of pointless to restate a suspicion that someone else pointed out a couple posts earlier. Also, some of my 'weak' posts were responses to other suspicions and reminders for people (like your "L-1" post).
@LL, that contradiction of hers was a strong scum-tell. Also, the "slight things" were the scummiest in the game. Also, you haven't really answered my question. What attack was bad?Like, all of them. How you just went all OMG on her and forgot about everyone else, and you were pretty aggressive. I didn't find theiza scummy at all, but I think you are.
Basically you have been "active lurking", posting but not posting useful content.Word.
Razz's reason for voting isn't good but actually feels town :P.It 'feels' town? What makes you say that? What town-tell are you picking up from Razzor?
Asking questions is how you find scum. You can't expect people not to do it. None of budja's questions were unreasonable either, so how did you know that thezia was town?
What attack was bad?Like, all of them. How you just went all OMG on her and forgot about everyone else, and you were pretty aggressive. I didn't find theiza scummy at all, but I think you are.
It felt like that.
Another interesting question to anyone interested in answering would be if a the default tactic of inactive lynch would be a good idea D2 as well?Mochaalatte and Peppy really need to get in here. They would do good to comment at least briefly on the more general current issues before posting new comments and insights.
@Lunar, transparency, feels sincere.I think there isn't any particular tell on Mocha either way (except for gross inactivity). How can Mocha be transparent when he only makes such nullish comments? He hasn't actually made any case against anyone. Transparency seems easy to pull off if one says little.
But more interestingly, you're again basing your reads on feeling.Of course he is. So are a lot of other people. For instance, if someone says something that they think is scummy, then they're still basing it on their feelings.
So, due to the fact that theres not actually that much I can find to base my vote on, I'm going to have to go with LL.You are voting for LL just you can't find much to base your vote on? I don't even...
You are voting for LL just you can't find much to base your vote on? I don't even...I'm voting LL because I can't find as many reasons to vote anyone else, not that I don't have any information at all. Theres not really enough proof that you, theiza, Peppy, or most of the other people here are Mafia, and LL is the one I have the most reason to vote. Honestly, I don't feel like dragging this day on as long as the first.
@Lunar, what do you think of kaizo?I'm getting a 'needs looking into' read from Kaizo. I don't have the time to write up such a post.
Intresting: Discounting my Peppy vote, only three people are being voted or are voting. What do you make of that?
Budja: (1) Limelemon
Limelemon: (1) kaizoman666
Kaizoman666: (1) Budja
In brief, it seems there just as much evidence (maybe a little less) attesting to Peppy's scummines as there is to Kaizo's.
In brief, it seems there just as much evidence (maybe a little less) attesting to Peppy's scummines as there is to Kaizo's.
XOMG three mafias :O
oh wait im not mafia so kaizo and budja must be IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE
lynch nao plz
LL gets bored :P. Mafia is a lot more fun and faster when people post more. Lurk and the game drags on. (*hint, hint*)
o hai guise ima postinBudja, and you said I was the only one who didn't contribute much?...
I never said that.o hai guise ima postinBudja, and you said I was the only one who didn't contribute much?...
Why so eager, scum?Well, I'd have to assume its to move on with the game. A forum game where you do nothing but wait is not very fun (plus, you were pretty eager to lynch someone not very long ago).
So does that mean that all five of us have an important role?Only if you think there are more than two mafia players, or a third special town role.
Only if you think there are more than two mafia players, or a third special town role.Lets see here... If theres one Mafia goon, one Mafia roleblocker, one serial killer, one investigator, and one doctor. That makes 5. Unless, of course, there isn't actually a serial killer.
Unless, of course, there isn't actually a serial killer.There isn't. I asked the mod last night.
Unless, of course, there isn't actually a serial killer.There isn't. I asked the mod last night.
This was fun. Everything went my way.And so, history repeats itself. The mafia doctor claims first, and dodges a lynch.
Also, here's what I said when bored told me I had almost won (N3) (I also asked earlier if the doctor could protect himself):I would have a bigger chance of winning if the doctor was not allowed to protect himself. Because everyone knows it's either me or Gansta. Therefore, I will try to kill Budja, and If I fail I will know Gangsta is the doctor. But I would quickly claim to be the doctor next day and say no one died because I protected Budja, and vote for Gangsta. Then Gangsta would probably say that he is the doctor, but I think Budja would believe me because I claimed first. And I would have a 75% chance of winning during night, because there's a 50% chnace teh doctor would protect me, and then it would not matter which target I chose. And if the doctor didn't protect me, I would have a 50% chance of targeting the doctor. Now the chance of a kill at night is 2/3. There is a 1/3 chance the doctor targets me (100% chance of winning), and a 2/3 chance of the doctor targeting himself or the other one (50% chance of winning). If that went wrong, I would probably just say that Gangsta is Mafia because he was quick to vote day 2, and no one else voted for PP for a while. However, if I try to kill Gangsta and eh gets protected, Budja will know I am mafia.I think too much.
Therefore, I will try to kill Budja.
Oh, and I just realised that that this whole speculation thingy is based on that the doctor sends in an action. I just assumed that. But you never know...
That was a mightily big risk.Not really.