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Title: About the art style in Saira
Post by: PONTO on November 22, 2009, 19:33:20
I just found these two videos!
Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYLoLB3Qymw) you can hear some comments about the artwork of the game, from this lady who's making concept art (I don't know what her name is According to her YouTube profile, her name is Charlotte, but she goes by the alias beomene) and here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFUVVo07GlA) she's actually drawing a (great) picture of Saira.

Enjoy! :)

EDIT: I found her deviantART account (http://beomene.deviantart.com/)!

Here are her illustrations for the game: (These are thumbnails. Click them for the big sized versions ;) )

(http://th03.deviantart.net/fs50/300W/i/2009/321/5/b/Saira___Project_Q_by_Nifflas_by_Beomene.jpg) (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs50/i/2009/321/5/b/Saira___Project_Q_by_Nifflas_by_Beomene.jpg) (http://th05.deviantart.net/fs51/300W/f/2009/319/7/2/Siezing_the_Second___Project_Q_by_Beomene.jpg) (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/319/7/2/Siezing_the_Second___Project_Q_by_Beomene.jpg)
(http://th06.deviantart.net/fs50/300W/f/2009/313/4/c/4c0fa7cc4899a41531670cadd58c578f.jpg) (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/313/4/c/4c0fa7cc4899a41531670cadd58c578f.jpg) (http://th03.deviantart.net/fs51/300W/f/2009/313/2/4/2403c02f5eee33e3c87240816b493b9d.jpg) (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/313/2/4/2403c02f5eee33e3c87240816b493b9d.jpg)
(http://th09.deviantart.net/fs51/300W/i/2009/303/b/0/Saira_by_Beomene.jpg) (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs51/i/2009/303/b/0/Saira_by_Beomene.jpg) (http://th01.deviantart.net/fs50/300W/f/2009/305/3/9/399d624e55bd1ebcad54979519da7c6c.jpg) (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/305/3/9/399d624e55bd1ebcad54979519da7c6c.jpg)
(http://th09.deviantart.net/fs50/300W/i/2009/314/f/8/Flourescent_Thief__by_Beomene.jpg) (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs50/i/2009/314/f/8/Flourescent_Thief__by_Beomene.jpg) (http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/300W/i/2009/342/8/1/Saira___Magenta_Poison_by_Beomene.jpg) (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2009/342/8/1/Saira___Magenta_Poison_by_Beomene.jpg)

Great pictures, don't you think? :)
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Evil on November 22, 2009, 20:47:18
OH MY GAAAAAAWDDDDD

She is like awesome at painting.

+ :hiddenstar: 'd her art @ da
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Nifflas on November 22, 2009, 21:09:05
I was beginning to wonder when somebody would locate those...
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: PONTO on November 22, 2009, 21:34:59
I think I had once stumbled upon that picture of Saira sitting, but I didn't really think it was from your game. =P
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: SiamJai on November 23, 2009, 06:19:38
Fantastic find, Ponto! :D

I watched the videos and checked out her DA gallery. Being able to watch the creation process and hearing the artist talk about it 'live' makes the art more special. :-)

Interestingly, it seems like she's concerned about living up to Sara's artistic legacy. I don't think she needs to be, because both styles are great on their own. :)

Here are a couple more Saira pics from Charlotte:

http://beomene.deviantart.com/art/Saira-141945906 (http://beomene.deviantart.com/art/Saira-141945906)

http://beomene.deviantart.com/art/Choosing-skincolour-142134182
 (http://beomene.deviantart.com/art/Choosing-skincolour-142134182)


Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: smeagle on November 23, 2009, 07:38:04
I just found those yesterday!
i faved it to  8)
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: PONTO on November 23, 2009, 14:12:09
Here are a couple more Saira pics from Charlotte:

http://beomene.deviantart.com/art/Saira-141945906 (http://beomene.deviantart.com/art/Saira-141945906)

http://beomene.deviantart.com/art/Choosing-skincolour-142134182
 (http://beomene.deviantart.com/art/Choosing-skincolour-142134182)
Cool, I'm going to put that on the first post. :)
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Beomene on November 24, 2009, 01:12:01
*BLUSH*


EEEEK! <3


..

Thank you guys.
I was just about to go to bed,
but after finding this thread,
I feel like staying up til dawn, noon, december 12:th just drawing more, more, more.
 :nuts:
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Beomene on November 24, 2009, 01:47:53
*draw deep breath*

I wish I understood more of what's going on on this forum.
As to the discussion about Steam, and protecting the game while not really wanting to limit its spreading etc...

But I'll leave that to you other guys who are skilled at... err... that kind of stuff.

Yes, when it comes to Saras legacy... I've met her and instantly liked both her and her style.
A couple of days ago I was still feeling that I wish I had more of her style in my hand, but, well, I don't.
And I shouldn't try to recreate what is her way to convey a message, that would be kind of... a theft.
So I try not to think about that, and just go for the John Bauer, art noveau feel that I think both I and Nifflas are comfortable with.


If you cheer me on like this I will try twice as hard, promise!
It's crazy how enormous effect encouragment has on me,
whenever Nifflas is positive or you people are positive
I just burst with energy.

I can't (but must) WAIT til you people are able to explore the game yourselves and can give me suggestions on what to draw!
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: utherdoul on November 24, 2009, 04:42:10
Keep at it! Your YouTube video makes it seem as if you don't have as much confidence in your work as you should. The style is fantastic and rather than being concerned about following Sara's legacy, you should be proud that you are contributing to a new atmosphere.

Nifflas' games have given me a lot of inspiration through their atmosphere even back when I discovered him through WADF and it's the art style and music that evoke a kind of intrigue and does the inspiring. Your work has the same effect.
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: smeagle on November 24, 2009, 07:51:30
ditto...

nah, i liek your style!
it looks good!
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: D Fast on November 24, 2009, 13:26:50
That stuff looks like something I'd most definitely put on my album cover. Heck, I could just write an entire album based on these pictures.

So... how much for CD cover artwork? Let's talk biz. ;-)
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: LPChip on November 24, 2009, 18:28:18
These drawings are so awesome. You really are very talented!

I also enjoyed your video's where you draw so much (read: talk). I think you have a lot of humor. I really liked watching them. :) So sure, go on and ramble some more. :) I'll be hanging on your lips. :)
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Beomene on November 24, 2009, 19:20:35
ditto...

nah, i liek your style!
it looks good!

Thank you, dA-friend of mine.

These drawings are so awesome. You really are very talented!

I also enjoyed your video's where you draw so much (read: talk). I think you have a lot of humor. I really liked watching them. :) So sure, go on and ramble some more. :) I'll be hanging on your lips. :)

*grin* ...you will regret saying that! I'll take a screenshot of this message and keep it as evidence.
^ _  ^
I want to just post the last couple of drawings now,
but I believe Nifflas would like me to keep them to myself a little while longer.
D'rn.

That stuff looks like something I'd most definitely put on my album cover. Heck, I could just write an entire album based on these pictures.

So... how much for CD cover artwork? Let's talk biz. ;-)

Good question.
Now I got very, very curious about your music.
I'm gonna google you like you've never been googled before.
Was that a threat or a promise? Hmmm.

I was beginning to wonder when somebody would locate those...


*wears a "smile" from earlobe to earlobe*

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Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: PONTO on November 24, 2009, 19:35:53
Beomene forgot to tell us she made a new video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xvO-OZC2qM). :P

Glad you found our forum. :)
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: BloxMaster on November 24, 2009, 19:39:49
Some very excellent work, which seems to simply vibrate with true love of art. I am in awe, really, this stuff is simply amazing. :)
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: D Fast on November 24, 2009, 20:11:28
That stuff looks like something I'd most definitely put on my album cover. Heck, I could just write an entire album based on these pictures.

So... how much for CD cover artwork? Let's talk biz. ;-)

Good question.
Now I got very, very curious about your music.
I'm gonna google you like you've never been googled before.
Was that a threat or a promise? Hmmm.

Let me help you there a bit: http://www.dfastmusic.net (http://www.dfastmusic.net)

The vision I got from your visuals is something along this kind of music: *click* (http://f0nk.com/new/a01.play)

Gotta check your videos out as well.
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Nifflas on November 24, 2009, 20:49:39
I got a lot of D Fast music on my hard drive, I'll play some of his music when we meet up tomorrow!
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Beomene on November 25, 2009, 01:45:49
That stuff looks like something I'd most definitely put on my album cover. Heck, I could just write an entire album based on these pictures.

So... how much for CD cover artwork? Let's talk biz. ;-)

Good question.
Now I got very, very curious about your music.
I'm gonna google you like you've never been googled before.
Was that a threat or a promise? Hmmm.

Let me help you there a bit: http://www.dfastmusic.net (http://www.dfastmusic.net)

The vision I got from your visuals is something along this kind of music: *click* (http://f0nk.com/new/a01.play)

Gotta check your videos out as well.


I am impressed, D Fast.
You prefer that nick instead of Harry? *imitates matrix agent* Or Mister Damm...
Myself, I like being called Charlotte or rather Lotta when talked/written to,
but I will always present my work as made by Beomene.
I alternate between calling Nifflas Nicklas or Nifflas when I see him in person,
but he doesn't seem to mind either way.
Hm. Never given that much thought.


Back on track-
Yes, I feel I would be proud to make a CD-cover for the kind of music you are able to make, D Fast.
I have not made CD-covers before, so please feel free to be very specific about what proportions you want your graphics done in. Ofcourse I'll do some research myself, must be a tutorial with the exact measurements somewhere...
...Hm, I would love to make a lot of images. Don't worry about be charging a lot,
I feel right now its more important that I try to produce a lot and get the hang of things,
rather than, eh, being expensive.

Perhaps there is some way we could make a small book, you know those that fit within the cd that usually have lyrics in them? A picture for each track?
I always need music when I draw.

When I draw for Nifflas, I listen to tracks from Saira (of course). I chose a single track and put it on repeat for hours on end, and I've realized my brain distressingly enough never gets tired of the same tune. (well... as long as its a stimulating melody)

So, I guess I could listen to your music while drawing,
send the image back and forth so that you can help me with instructions so that you feel the image is just what you want.

Buuut, ofcourse, not before the 12/12!
I'll let Nifflas show me more of your music tomorrow.
My mail is beomene@gmail.com
and I'll be checking this forum with paranoid frequency.
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Beomene on November 25, 2009, 02:42:12
Beomene forgot to tell us she made a new video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xvO-OZC2qM). :P

Glad you found our forum. :)


Gah... *mumble* I didn't forget *grumble*
I just wish I had something more interesting to show you.
Sairas face rather than mine, that is.
But I'm a little unsure of what I can show.
Usually I upload a video of what I've drawn right after I finish drawing,
but now that I draw not for myself but for Nifflas,
I don't feel I can expose everything just yet.
Will ask him tomorrow (in about nine hours) if I should start posting at least the beginning of my drawings,
I mean,
that should be ok. Perhaps.
And when I don't post drawideos (eh?) I try to compensate by talking.

Yeay! I was just told I'm cute in a non-scary way!
...

Does anyone feel like explaining why someone would feel it's necessary to make that distinction?



Just tell me the truth.
I'm scary, isn't I...?

Yappari...
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Salmoneous on November 25, 2009, 07:28:20
You ought to join Niffy in his merch project.
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: LPChip on November 25, 2009, 12:38:19
If you're looking for more things to draw, perhaps you'd like to draw covers for my music as well? :)
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Beomene on November 26, 2009, 16:10:52
If you're looking for more things to draw, perhaps you'd like to draw covers for my music as well? :)

Nice idea!
I am starting my company now, so that it will be legal and not a crime and nice in general to do business...


Hm, have to chose a name.
>- <
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Beomene on November 27, 2009, 21:20:08
Hey, you people?


I need help.
Hm, it's not as serious as it sounds.


*sigh*
I am really just... tired and really bothered by everthing as well as nothing in particular.
No, it's not that time of the month, it's not that easy to explain.

I would appreciate some help with chosing which sketches to finish.
I can't really post things that are almost finished, which I think is really too bad...
But I mean, the really rough drafts should be ok to show,
so I'm thinking perhaps
you can tell me which you think are the best ideas?


I've tried all kinds of things to pick me out of the stupor,
but neither excericse, icecream or the good old slap in the face (and mandatory "SHAPE UP!" shriek) is cutting it for me.

I think I know what it is that is bothering me,
and I'm sure I'll be out of it before the weekend is over,
yes, hopefully back on track by then.
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: rrc2soft on November 28, 2009, 01:05:50
On my side, the only thing I can do is to tell you what are the feelings that your sketches transmit me. Maybe from my feelings and perspectives (and from the feelings and perspectives of others) you can get some inspiration to survive your block. Or maybe not, you just may need to step out of Saira a bit to see her from the outside, not to see her from the inside.

Your choice, we are here to help  :) . Just tell us (if you want) where are those sketches.
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Beomene on November 28, 2009, 20:53:43
Yes, exactly.

It will be very rough black and white sketches,
and I'll talk to Nifflas first,
but I think I can post them as WIP's on deviantart.

Phew. Exhausting.
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: PONTO on December 02, 2009, 20:24:35
Look, a new one! :D

(http://th09.deviantart.net/fs50/300W/i/2009/314/f/8/Flourescent_Thief__by_Beomene.jpg) (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs50/i/2009/314/f/8/Flourescent_Thief__by_Beomene.jpg)

(I've added it to the first post.)
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: LPChip on December 02, 2009, 22:27:50
oh wow, its amasing!
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: The stickman on December 04, 2009, 03:48:23
*whistles*
Beautiful.
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Purple Pineapple on December 04, 2009, 04:37:03
That is win. It looks so real!
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: SiamJai on December 09, 2009, 09:16:37
New video commentary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgCQkGp8FvA) from Charlotte - she uploaded it only ten hours ago.

Watch it if you'd like to find out what it's like to work with Nifflas in person. ;) She also mentions the press release, her art and the release-day party!

Thanks for sharing, Charlotte! :)
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: dvit on December 09, 2009, 20:44:14
About buying children - I think adoption is the preferred term...

(It's in the video description, along with link to scary christian people)
(Okay, the christian thing is satire. Hopefully)
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Beomene on December 12, 2009, 05:01:46

About buying children - I think adoption is the preferred term...

(It's in the video description, along with link to scary christian people)
(Okay, the christian thing is satire. Hopefully)


Yes! Well! I realized that! But it was so very embarassing,
when it (of course) turned out it was a parody,
that I set the video to private.
*cough*
I was a bit too upset to keep it public, it was like an insult to the U.S that I actually feared it to be true.

(what am I and dvit talking about?
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0203/childpurchase.html
Well, I ranted about this on youTube.
It was sort of a "two-girls-and-one-cup"-reaction,
where I freaked out over Americans selling their children as cannonfodder to crazy cults.
Which Americans of course doesn't do!
But I was kind of in a frenzy.)


New video commentary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgCQkGp8FvA) from Charlotte - she uploaded it only ten hours ago.

Watch it if you'd like to find out what it's like to work with Nifflas in person. ;) She also mentions the press release, her art and the release-day party!

Thanks for sharing, Charlotte! :)

Thanks for caring, SiamJai!
^  _______________   ^


That is win. It looks so real!

Thanks a bunch. I have moderated it though,
the slimey, flourescent thing had stolen her cap.
And she always wears her cap.
So she pursues him... it.
And now I've fixed fact that the cap was too large on that old picture *mumble*
Thanks!

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Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: PONTO on December 13, 2009, 15:02:25
New picture! :D

(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/300W/i/2009/342/8/1/Saira___Magenta_Poison_by_Beomene.jpg) (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2009/342/8/1/Saira___Magenta_Poison_by_Beomene.jpg)
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: LightningEagle on December 13, 2009, 16:31:02
Wow.. lovely, wish for a 1680x1050 version.  :D
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Beomene on December 13, 2009, 23:37:45
1680 x 1050 can be downloaded from

http://beomene.deviantart.com/art/Cough-cough-146674084

^_ ^
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: heartskuppy on December 17, 2009, 08:05:38
You ought to join Niffy in his merch project.

i would totally buy a tshirt made from this artwork.
Title: Re: About the art style in Saira
Post by: Beomene on December 17, 2009, 13:36:51
Makes me happy to hear.
There is a t-shirt planned,
but we are not sure yet.
Nifflas will have to think about it, I guess.

It -might- be a black t-shirt with the silhouette of a flying saucer, surrounded by twisting flames.
Difficult to explain. But it will be not absolutely -saira-, but rather a nice t-shirt that someone who hasn't even heard of Nifflas might want to wear. It is Sairas saucer though, ofcourse.

We will see if it is coming, I've sent him the graphic material at least.