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Title: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Bligglenuber on July 09, 2009, 22:55:22

Well, I finally have finished this level. It isn't very large, and focusses on the currently unique tileset that my brother and I compiled from an internet game on nitrome. I shall emphasize that whilst the graphics have (mostly) been lifted from this game, all the custom objects have been created by me and the big machine custom object (you'll know what I'm talking about when you play it) was designed and created entirely by me, there is nothing from the nitrome game that it relates to at all, all my own work (and about ten hours of it at that - I'm not good at pixel art  <_<). The music was created using modplug tracker, and I apologize if it gets a little repetitive, but it took ages to make as I find modplug tracker very hard to use effectively and I cannot be bothered to make it longer.

All the bugs that my friends or I have found have been fixed, but if anyone comes across any more then it would be greatly appreciated.

Here is the link (I'm sorry it's sendspace, but for some reason unknown to me I can't upload anything to the archive - if anyone is volunteering to do that for me, it would be greatly appreciated  ;)):http://www.sendspace.com/file/jx6upx (http://www.sendspace.com/file/jx6upx)

Hopefully you guys will like it, the consensus from my friends is that it is very good (though I will say they are easily impressed  :P2). Something to please Goog after his deprivation from good levels  X-P

EDIT: Sendspace link up now also (just for you Kl?mrisk  X-P):http://www.mediafire.com/?4nb1yyixy5x (http://www.mediafire.com/?4nb1yyixy5x)

EDIT: It is not a bug, the guy does turn up after you leave. It is not obvious how you locate him, but he is there. (Happy Hunting :P)

EDIT: All custom objects can be used by all, but until I get confirmation one way or the other from Nitrome the tilesets are not for use. Music and gradients also can be used by anyone.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Dandelion on July 09, 2009, 23:33:25

Ooh, this is beautiful! The tilesets are lovely, though I dock you points for not making them yourself. The sound is fitting, but it's noticeable when it loops. The custom objects are amazing! I wish I was that good at animating.
The whole thing is very un-knyttish, but that isn't a bad thing at all. If I were to give it a score from 1 to 10, I would say...

Spoiler: score (click to show/hide)

7.7/10. It was just a bit short, and would benefit from some challenges. It kind of lacks gameplay.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: googoogjoob on July 10, 2009, 00:24:22

I really liked this. Very good custom objects, and very good custom object use. This level is awesmoe.

However: did you ask Nitrome for permission to use their graphics? If you didn't/don't, then this level will be deleted. (Unless they have some sort of standing "you can use our stuff" policy.)

A few bugs/inconsistencies:

Spoiler: Spoilers. (click to show/hide)

On the screen where you get the virus, if you go to the left side of the screen, there's a stray sign object so you can see what the guy on the right is saying again.

After putting the disc in, on the way out, the guy says "destruciton" instead of "destruction", and the word "to" is missing between "ought" and "leave".

After exiting the pipe after this, as the trap closed, it closed on Juni's head, leading to a brief wallswim.

That guy promised to follow and explain, but I never saw him again.

On the way between where you get the umbrella and the bit where there are a bunch of fans, one corner tile of rust and garbage and stuff, and the little bit coming off its left side, is solid, whereas like all other such tiles are not.

The dealy with the hanging cage things that you jump across- the shift there makes the default noise, which is really weird in context, where the mechanical shift noise would be much better. (Also the cage dealies don't make a sound when in action, unlike most all other machinery.)

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Purple Pineapple on July 10, 2009, 00:43:37

Hmm.. rustyard, huh? *downloading*

Quote from: googoogjoob on July 10, 2009, 00:24:22

I really liked this. Very good custom objects, and very good custom object use. This level is awesmoe.

I must agree with this.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: JC Grim the 'crete reaper on July 10, 2009, 01:23:51

Heyyyyyyy.... I remember this!
You offered me the use of these tilesets for BSoaKFF, but I declined because of the lack of exclusivity.
I still have the beta you sent me.

I seem to have issues with receiving an explanation as to what is going on...

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: RunMan on July 10, 2009, 09:44:46

Amazing COs. The "shadow" when Juni is in the pipe is creative :)

I liked it, too bad that you didn't make tilesets by yourself.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: StaticRomantic on July 10, 2009, 10:43:41

Looks terrific :D
Downloading.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Evil on July 10, 2009, 10:49:39

it is a good knytt stories level

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: MilkMan on July 10, 2009, 12:35:22

The download link has been updated (error: #10).
You may now download the file.

that comes every time i try :/

edit: got it down! :)

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: lamarblake on July 10, 2009, 15:40:57

Hey, hey and wow. The CO's, especially the big machine are really, really great. Loved what you did with the tilesets. Very artsy and as someone else put it, very unknyttish. Only thing missing for me was more gameplay. Keep on keepin' on!

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Bligglenuber on July 10, 2009, 19:24:17

Okay, since a whole bunch of you have started to talk of the missing explanation, where the guy who follows you fails to show up. Thing is, he does show up. You may wish to consider it a secret area though, so don't spoil it for others by posting about it without spoilers if you do find it.

Thanks for all the good feedback by the way. I'm currently asking nitrome for permission, I knew I intended to do that at one point, but I forgot to. I'll notify you when they reply.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Klämrisk on July 10, 2009, 20:05:07

could you upload it to Mediafire or just somewhere else than Sendspace please?  :)

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: carlushka on July 10, 2009, 20:44:42

YES! I loved the style of this game on Nitrome. I think it translates perfectly to Knytt Stories. Downloading! XD

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: PONTO on July 10, 2009, 20:57:30

This is the level with the best use of the custom objects feature I have ever seen. Congratulations. :)
And by the way, I also noticed at the end, when you activate the lifts as you jump to the first one there is a sound which should not be there. Apart from that and some minor things that goog pointed out, I loved it, really. Simply amazing.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Cosine on July 10, 2009, 21:08:48

If you hold S to go faster on the air tunnel part, the doors never close, and you go to a void. Not sure if it only happens if you get the secret (never tried it without getting it). Other than that, awesome.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Bligglenuber on July 10, 2009, 21:17:06

I have no idea how you managed to find a void when going through the air tunnel, I have retested several times and haven't found what you did at all. I'll fix all these bugs soon and post a fully working version, but I'll leave it a bit until more bugs have been notified (or not, but until more people have played it through). Thanks again for all the great comments guys, it made all that time worth  it.... just.  XD

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: googoogjoob on July 10, 2009, 21:51:41

I found a void falling down through that closing door thing. In both this one and the air tunnel, I think the problem is there's only a single-tile-width-wide set of shifts, so it's just barely possible to slip through without activating them.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Bligglenuber on July 10, 2009, 21:55:57

I see... that might be an explanation. I'll make sure that they are square too. Thanks Goog  C) (I've started having this come from various other people too)

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Bored2death on July 10, 2009, 22:02:01

WOW!!!... incredible... are any of these objects available to the public for use? It'd be a shame if 10 hours of work went into something, and it was only used by one person...

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Bligglenuber on July 10, 2009, 22:04:26

Sure, anyone's welcome to use the custom objects but with the tilesets I'm still waiting for a reply from nitrome (I forgot to ask initially) so until I get a reply they aren't for use. Have fun using them  :^^:

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Bored2death on July 10, 2009, 22:07:27

YES!!! Thank you!!! You are incredibly good with art and animation! You should seriously consider a career...

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Strange Darkness on July 11, 2009, 02:19:46

WOW

You had me with the name!
Anyway i gotta download this..be back to you!

*DOWNLOADING*

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Pick Yer Poison on July 11, 2009, 05:50:14

This is level is great. You nailed the "rusty" feel with the tilesets and the COs. :^^:

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Teper on July 11, 2009, 19:40:30

Great level! Awesome COs and tilesets and gradients. Although the tileset is from Nitrone's Rustyard (I've just discovered the game, very cute), you made in this game a "skycity" dimension that doesn't exist in the flash game. I only regret it's shortness, and it's lack of challenge (this atmosphere would have been perfect for traps, robots and lasers).

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Diago on July 12, 2009, 12:34:22

I like this level, and the new tileset. Good job on the animations as well.
Maybe not a long game after all, but at least it all sticks together.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Purple Pineapple on July 12, 2009, 19:45:23

Quote from: Diago on July 12, 2009, 12:34:22

Maybe not a long game after all, but at least it all sticks together.

Game or level?

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Bored2death on July 12, 2009, 20:27:24

Say, have you checked yet on whether it's legal?

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Bligglenuber on July 12, 2009, 20:32:16

Umm, well I've sent my third email this evening and they still haven't replied, so basically I'm going to email them once every evening until they give a reply. Don't really know what else to do other than wait for a reply. :/

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Joozey on July 12, 2009, 21:07:28

Yeah, that's the trouble with most copyright issues. Everyone pretends there's an issue but the owner just doesn't reply (because he doesn't care).

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Purple Pineapple on July 13, 2009, 01:39:43

..and then jumps in with a lawsuit.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Joozey on July 13, 2009, 10:13:45

Nonsense. If he dislikes, a warning first. A lawsuit costs a big pile of money, and the judge will most likely say: "Did you talk to the guy first, before throwing with sues?".

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Strange Darkness on July 13, 2009, 13:46:44

Well sorry to disrupt this talk but
I Downloads the file
and then

ERROR:COULD NOT PACK FILE

What the hell does that mean... ive had other errors but not this one...anyone could care to explain cause this level looks great and i feel like im missing something  <_<

Thanks  :D

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Evil on July 13, 2009, 14:46:37

Quote from: Strange Darkness on July 13, 2009, 13:46:44

ERROR:COULD NOT PACK FILE

It means what it means. 

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Bligglenuber on July 13, 2009, 21:59:17

Okay, the eternally nice Matthew Annal has said that this level may stay (  C)p), but hasn't said whether the tilesets may be made public, so don't go using them just yet. I'll edit the first post as soon as he replies again.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Terv on July 13, 2009, 22:50:36

This level was very interesting. I loved the custom sprites! Great job.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: StaticRomantic on July 13, 2009, 23:03:47

wow. terrific level. although it was hard to see what was going on sometimes, this was one of the most detailed and creative levels i've played. great use of COs.
some glitches, not sure if they've been reported yet:

Spoiler: glitches (click to show/hide)

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4880/glitch.png)

also, on (1003, 1006) [i believe], if you speed upwards through it with your umbrella, you somehow miss the shifts, the big closing CO forgets to spawn, and you hit a void up top. not sure how that works, but it happened with me.

great work.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: StaticRomantic on July 13, 2009, 23:19:19

Quote from: Strange Darkness on July 13, 2009, 13:46:44

Well sorry to disrupt this talk but
I Downloads the file
and then

ERROR:COULD NOT PACK FILE

What the hell does that mean... ive had other errors but not this one...anyone could care to explain cause this level looks great and i feel like im missing something  <_<

Thanks  :D

wow Evil. lot of help.

SD, what OS and browser are you using, what are you using to unpack the files, and have you tried both download links? also, try googling the error message.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Strange Darkness on July 14, 2009, 01:11:52

Mmmmm I dunno Static.R  .. Evil's help sounds alot better...  XD
Thanks for the hints Stactic.R  :D
Im gonna try agian ...

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Purple Pineapple on July 14, 2009, 01:14:31

Quote from: Joozey on July 13, 2009, 10:13:45

Nonsense. If he dislikes, a warning first. A lawsuit costs a big pile of money, and the judge will most likely say: "Did you talk to the guy first, before throwing with sues?".

Kidding.

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Joozey on July 14, 2009, 10:09:16

To a tiny case like this? I'm not kiddin'.
And I told you the owner doesn't care :p. Else he would have given a full explanation, which he didn't.

EDIT: Oh right, sorry purple pineapple  :oops: I thought you were being sarcastic there.
You have my apologies  C)

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Klämrisk on July 14, 2009, 19:33:36

Thanks for uploading on MediaFire!

*downloads*

 8)

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Hmpf on July 19, 2009, 01:51:52

Very nice. The machine is very scary; great custom objects all over!

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: Bligglenuber on July 21, 2009, 17:02:14

Thanks again guys, he hasn't replied about the public use of the tilesets, so I think it would be safe to assume that provided the use doesn't escalate to everyone in the whole world using them it should be alright. The email he sent me first just explained that he allowed the level as it wasn't to be extensively used by a large community, so I don't really see why it couldn't be used within that community. If he ever does email me again, then I'll inform you guys, but until then you can assume that they are all up for public.

Have fun using them (though it does take a while to make a full screen with all the layers - just a heads up, there are three different tiles with varying transparency, which you can overlay onto another square tile to make it appear to be background)

Title: Re: [Misc/Easy] The Deserted Rustyard
Post by: TheSquashedOrange on July 23, 2009, 03:05:43

Nice level, I liked the tileset and CO's alot, and the music was strangely fitting. I did get a bit confused at the point where you had to press D to get the umbrella out despite the fact that you didn't have it (a flag or something I'm guessing?) yet, but it was still fun all the same. This level brings back memories of the third level from the very first ever Sonic game, similar idea.