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Title: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: SecretGlitch on July 03, 2009, 00:41:15

This level is quite obviously based upon AUA, but with a handmade tileset and a quite different setting. The plot is about what occurred before WaDF, in a complex oil plant that Dr. Cliche built.

Pics-

Spoiler: Pic 1 (click to show/hide)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/kintobar/DSsc1.png)

Spoiler: Pic 2 (click to show/hide)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/kintobar/DSsc5.png)

Spoiler: Pic 3 (click to show/hide)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/kintobar/DSsc3.png)

Download (http://knyttlevels.com/levels/SecretGlitch%20-%20Dark%20Sea.knytt.bin)

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: Purple Pineapple on July 03, 2009, 01:05:43

*downloading*

EDIT: Ugh. There seriously needs to be a save point somewhere in the middle if the switch puzzle.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: OnniHopeDream on July 03, 2009, 01:09:12

This is a really cool level, it's like a darker version of AUA. The gameplay is very fun and the atmosphere is really nice, hope to see more from you  C)

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: SecretGlitch on July 03, 2009, 01:28:00

Quote from: Purple Pineapple on July 03, 2009, 01:05:43

*downloading*

EDIT: Ugh. There seriously needs to be a save point somewhere in the middle if the switch puzzle.

Yeah, I bet that's a problem. I'll wait for any more criticisms before I go about changing it first, though.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: Purple Pineapple on July 03, 2009, 02:07:49

Ok, finished. Nice level overall. The graphics were very good.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

When was the last time Dr. Clich? cleaned his oil tank?

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: bunnrey on July 03, 2009, 05:58:42

Its great so far!
I would call this lunatic by my standards.
however there was one little mistake.

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after you toggle the lights if you keep going left there's a void screen.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: SecretGlitch on July 03, 2009, 06:50:19

Quote from: bunnrey on July 03, 2009, 05:58:42

Its great so far!
I would call this lunatic by my standards.
however there was one little mistake.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

after you toggle the lights if you keep going left there's a void screen.

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How did you get there? You should only have high jump so I'm not sure how you can get on that ledge.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: Evil on July 03, 2009, 07:19:29

downloading

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: special_d on July 03, 2009, 14:55:26

OK, more save points in some places. That area where you have to dodge spikes while going up by umbrella only to get killed by spikes when you think you're finished is not cool.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: SecretGlitch on July 03, 2009, 16:31:33

Quote from: special_d on July 03, 2009, 14:55:26

OK, more save points in some places. That area where you have to dodge spikes while going up by umbrella only to get killed by spikes when you think you're finished is not cool.

You mean the completely strait up path with spikes I tried to make pop-up before you can run into them? Oh well, I probably should add a save right before there anyway.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: special_d on July 03, 2009, 16:37:15

You did, it's just that it annoyed me initially (beat the level now) because there's like 10 screens before a bloody save point. I dunno, maybe that would make it too easy. It was a very good level, anyway.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: googoogjoob on July 03, 2009, 17:47:25

I like the tilesets. However, the level itself is too hard. Not, "the level is actually hard"-hard, but more like "the save points are just too far apart"-hard. There are very few screens that are actually tricky on their own, but the long sequences of medium-difficulty screens without save points are irritating. ("Medium" here meaning basically "hard-level".)

The switch puzzle felt frustratingly arbitrary- even after I had finished it (by brute force), it still made no sense to me.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: special_d on July 03, 2009, 18:19:11

Quote from: googoogjoob on July 03, 2009, 17:47:25

I like the tilesets. However, the level itself is too hard. Not, "the level is actually hard"-hard, but more like "the save points are just too far apart"-hard. There are very few screens that are actually tricky on their own, but the long sequences of medium-difficulty screens without save points are irritating. ("Medium" here meaning basically "hard-level".)

The switch puzzle felt frustratingly arbitrary- even after I had finished it (by brute force), it still made no sense to me.

This is just IMO, it's just an opinion, but to me the switch puzzle was incredibly easy, and there were only one or two things with far apart save points. Really impossibly difficult to someone new at the game but for people who have been beating difficult levels for a while this wasn't too bad. I found some of the screens pretty damn hard but not for lack of save points.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: SecretGlitch on July 03, 2009, 18:25:16

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Although there's a split path so your experience could have varied by that too.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: googoogjoob on July 03, 2009, 18:31:51

The problem I had with the switch puzzle was that to check whether or not the combination worked, I had to make two jumps which are very easy to screw up.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: Purple Pineapple on July 03, 2009, 18:37:52

Those "two jumps" were probably still only hard/very hard. I got stuck on that puzzle because I had the switches set wrong coming back. About the umbrella-spike challenge: it is indeed harder compared to the rest of the level. The spikes at the end, after you beat the real challenge spikes seemed to be there for no reason at all.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: SecretGlitch on July 03, 2009, 18:55:33

Quote from: Purple Pineapple on July 03, 2009, 18:37:52

The spikes at the end, after you beat the real challenge spikes seemed to be there for no reason at all.

Actually, there used to be a secret related to those spikes, but I took it out. I guess it didn't come to mind to delete the spikes too.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: special_d on July 03, 2009, 19:02:38

The umbrella/spike puzzle wasn't... thaaaaaat... hard, I mean, I'd give it an 8.5/10 where 10/10 is absolute lunacy. I mean, it's just about taking it slow and manouevering around the spikes that pop up.

All in all I really liked it, good job, although for knytt stories players more interested in the environment type thing rather than an endless level of endless challenges it may not be for them, but you can't help that. The level was VERY LONG, which is good imo because it's been a while. Better than have it too short.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: Teper on July 04, 2009, 19:48:34

Very good remake of AUA. The level design is exellent and challenges satifying

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

I have found a void when climbing up the ghost wall just left of the boat

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: RunMan on July 04, 2009, 23:32:25

omfg, oil tank is just too hard.

@edit:

I did it, it was lunatic anyway.

@edit2:

I made it, finally. It was amazing level, based on not-original idea, but still.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Oil tank and lasers challenges where too hard. It needs some savepoints.

Waiting for your next levels ;)

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: Purple Pineapple on July 05, 2009, 00:56:04

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I didn't think lasers were too hard.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: Claviq on July 09, 2009, 01:52:58

This is one of the best levels I?ve ever played. Nice atmosphere, nice graphic and really, really hardest and funniest challenges. After this level, my knytt skills are definitely megahigh 8)

My rating: 10/10

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: ChaosWolf on July 14, 2009, 04:47:44

Mind if I LP it?

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: lilmanjs16 on July 17, 2009, 02:35:00

this would be better if it had custom music, but still its a great level.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: SecretGlitch on July 17, 2009, 03:12:57

Quote from: ChaosWolf159 on July 14, 2009, 04:47:44

Mind if I LP it?

Sure, LP it.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: ChaosWolf on July 23, 2009, 07:17:27

Holy crap! I suck at knytt stories so forgot I had an umbrella. There is an 11 minute video of me dieing and cussing my lungs out. >( Fun level though! :D

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: mythor on July 31, 2009, 00:31:05

This was a great level! I really enjoyed both this level and "Go Left". Neither of them were too difficult in my opinion, but I'm certainly not new to Knytt Stories. I think the save points were well placed, and the switch puzzle only took a bit of studying to figure out.

The only thing that really got me was that

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Angry Face a kill me! What did I ever do to Angry Face? I can't figure out how to not get a killed.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: SecretGlitch on July 31, 2009, 06:28:21

Quote from: mythor on July 31, 2009, 00:31:05

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Angry Face a kill me! What did I ever do to Angry Face? I can't figure out how to not get a killed.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Angry Face will always a kill you. Sometimes a face gets really angry, and unleashes his anger upon the unsuspecting innocent.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

But really that area is just for small easter eggs for getting either the yellow key (which is easier to get, so I just kill you with angry face), or the purple key for an optional ending.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: ChaosWolf on July 31, 2009, 23:49:51

Great level. Just finished recording and uploading all of it. The laser part made the oil tank seem easy. I don't see how the oil tank is harder. The last part was really easy. Good work SecretGlitch! :)

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: Salmoneous on October 09, 2009, 07:35:04

Nice level. You really captured the atmosphere and I can't wait for your next level.  :D
And I managed to beat it.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: Solarn on December 10, 2009, 12:39:50

The laser room with the purple key is insane. I beat other Lunatic levels, but I just can't get past it. I think you might have made it too hard.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: SecretGlitch on December 11, 2009, 00:41:02

That room is not very hard for me just going left to right. Getting the purple key is an endeavor, though, but it's completely optional if you didn't know.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: Miyako on January 17, 2010, 16:04:04

10/10. That is all. I would video it if it wasnt already done, this level is amazing. Top tier.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: KenoguLabz on February 03, 2010, 08:21:29

I'm attempting my first Let's Plays, and I'm playing through this level blind for my first try.  Let me know if you think I'm butchering it!

[Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxsU32E1Znk)]
[Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHjp8fEyyGM)]
[Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPdKDSlwCbk)]
[Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcqRWaGSrR0)]
[Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZGvbF4Dpg8)]
[Part 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78ivsIV0n1I)]

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: RunMan on February 03, 2010, 10:46:22

It's quite good level for LPing.

Good luck with next parts ;)

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: SecretGlitch on February 10, 2010, 04:09:08

Wow, this level is still keeping up! Sorry I haven't been on more often, but hopefully soon I'll have the sequel made.

Also, good luck with the LP.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: GrayFace on February 14, 2010, 16:21:44

That's great. I've just beat the level. The difficulty is very good. My only complaint about save points would be their positions rather than density. They are sometimes 1-2 empty screens away from the actual challenges parts. Like, you have to run 2 screens to the Oil Tank, 1 screen to the lasers.

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: KenoguLabz on February 20, 2010, 12:20:08

Parts 2-6 of the Let's Play are up! Hehe.  Quite the challenging level.

[Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxsU32E1Znk)]
[Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHjp8fEyyGM)]
[Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPdKDSlwCbk)]
[Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcqRWaGSrR0)]
[Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZGvbF4Dpg8)]
[Part 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78ivsIV0n1I)]

Title: Re: [Challenge][Very Hard] Dark Sea
Post by: ZaratUshtrA.2.0 on December 30, 2016, 23:09:03

Good level ^_^ 2 hours. 2 looong-looong hours ) :nuts: