Nifflas' Support Forum
Released Games => Knytt Stories => Topic started by: Dandelion on June 24, 2009, 01:22:53
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Convert the music to MP3 and put it on an MP3 player? Sorry for asking so many silly questions, better safe then sorry though.
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You are allowed to own it, so I don't see why not. Your just not allowed to use it in your levels.
It's basically the same concept as putting it on a thumb drive and taking it to another computer... which is what Emeraldfire7 has been doing for Knytt Stories.
I'm sure many people before you have done this... and nobody knows they did in the first place.
I still couldn't see a reason it would be looked down upon though...
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You do have the tracks on your pc, so there ain't any difference with your ipod. You shouldn't use it in a ks level, though, as JCG said, although you could ask permission from Nifflas
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You are allowed to own it, so I don't see why not. Your just not allowed to use it in your levels.
It's basically the same concept as putting it on a thumb drive and taking it to another computer... which is what Emeraldfire7 has been doing for Knytt Stories.
I do that too...
I agree, I dont see why you cant use the music on an iPod, as long as it aint in a KS level.
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You shouldn't use it in a KS level, or any other production like that (such as a game).
However, there is no reason why you would be forbidden to put it on a music player; that's just personal use.
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Normally it would be illegal, as it would mean altering the gamedata in an unintended way.
But who would know besides you? So, sure... If it only stays on your mp3 player, you shouldn't be in trouble, unless you loose the player.
I don't see you getting sued or anything for this.
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Indeed. I'm having a hard time imagining Niff sue you for converting his music into mp3's. :P
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Indeed. I'm having a hard time imagining Niff sue you for converting his music into mp3's. :P
especially because the niffpage has most of the music (for other games) in mp3 already X-P
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And copyright is about sharing. You're not sharing it with anyone. You're using it for personal use.
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Is the ASD music copyrighted? If it is, shouldn't there be a disclaimer somewhere in the level folder telling you who has the rights to it?
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Everything that can be copyrighted is copyrighted by default. There would need to be a disclaimer if it weren't copyrighted.
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Normally it would be illegal, as it would mean altering the gamedata in an unintended way.
"Altering the gamedata," as you call it, is not illegal in this case.
According to the license agreement for Multimedia Fusion - and pretty much every other commercial game design software - you are not allowed to decompile or otherwise reverse engineer the game, nor alter or "rip" any of its data.
But this ONLY APPLIES TO THE GAME EXECUTABLE. Clickteam has no domain over the music folder in A Strange Dream.
Neither Knytt Stories nor A Strange Dream has a proper license agreement, aside from the MMF2 one. There are no particular rules as to whether or not you can do anything with the music in that level.
Nifflas, however, at one point, mentioned that you should not use any content from A Strange Dream, An Underwater Adventure, or Sky Flower in your own productions (KS or otherwise). (The tilesets specify not to use them in your own levels, which really should be a tip-off to this.)
In any case, Nifflas doesn't object to people listening to his music or putting it on an audio player. He is the sole author of said music.
This doesn't necessarily mean that it's legal, but nobody could possibly have any cause to say that it is illegal, either.
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It would violate the authors right, because thats what the authors right is about.
You're not to alter existing material into a new form without the author's concent. Doing it without the authors concent is considered illegal. Thats the part I refer to.
And I'm talking in a general case because there are always people that think, if it can be done here (for whatever reason), it can be done elsewhere too.
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You're not to alter existing material into a new form without the author's concent. Doing it without the authors concent is considered illegal. Thats the part I refer to.
For the purposes of most laws, changing the format of a music file is not considered to be an actual altercation.
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You're not to alter existing material into a new form without the author's concent. Doing it without the authors concent is considered illegal. Thats the part I refer to.
For the purposes of most laws, changing the format of a music file is not considered to be an actual altercation.
Hmm, good point.