I somehow completely missed the hyperlink in your post! I'm watching your run now and it's really cool  I know the pain of having a shooting creature go rogue in the save room (tOO MANY TIMES). I wish I'd made the rules clearer from the start cos you were on a great run up until you shot the gem!

I did a speedrun of this challenge and I completely forgot about the white shooting creature in the P building! If you watch you'll see why haha. Next time I do a run I'm definitely gonna get it from there. I wanna do a slower run that is efficient in terms of rooms visited, cos I feel that such a run may be quite different from a run that's efficient for time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgKspk5kYhA

It was an absolute nightmare to do because dying before the Zoo ending not only meant losing time but depending on how I died, often meant losing animals too. I don't think I'll be trying too hard to do this one again cos as a speedrun it's a goddamn nightmare xD

oh man I've been in that position too many times to count xD

The rules are that you can't obtain any money, but if you do accidentally obtain money, then just don't spend it and it'll be okay ;P

EDIT: scratch that, it seems unreasonable to ask people not to shoot that gem when it's clearly the best solution, so i'll change it to you can't SPEND any money.

I wondered if that might be the case, and it is! The run I uploaded today was a whole 3 minutes faster. It inspired me to think up another challenge like the ones you guys already have (and that I'm gonna speedrun next) that should hopefully be fun to do both at a relaxed pace AND fast.

The video doesn't seem to have framerate drops when I play it back, and I certainly didn't experience frame drops while doing the run myself. I don't know why it's doing that for you but that does sound like a pain in the butt.

I'm not sure I agree with you that the master key room would be so useful that my entire run is forfeit, but I do agree that it would have saved me a visit to E, which naturally would save a minute or so. I actually did the run before I learned of the master key room, but even knowing what I do now, I'd only go to it once. That's because you need to collect the animals anyway, which naturally entails visiting many locations.

That said, I'd genuinely enjoy seeing you cut my time in half using the strategies you describe here! That's the joy of this game, and is exactly why I didn't wait till I had a good run to request the page be made on speedrun.com (you have to request them by submitting a run, you see). I'd much rather people think my run slow and overcome it than think my run too good to be beat.

I'm sorry I didn't include your challenge on the page. I wanted to, but I didn't fully understand the rules, and wasn't sure if people had figured out how to do it yet. If you're happy to clarify the rules for me here then I'd be happy to include it on the site though   

Hey guys! I've been a lurker around here for a while, but recently I did a Knytt Underground and then also an Uurnog speedrun, so I wanted to share the Knytt Underground one here for anyone interested.

Some of you may be familiar with the any% runs on speedrun.com that use the disorder (https://www.speedrun.com/Knytt_Underground).

Well, I decided to do one of Chapter 3 WITHOUT the disorder, to see how the routing turned out. Well let me just say now: the routing turned out to be very exciting indeed, making liberal use of Utopioca as well as two secret shortcuts (proper secrets). Although I've owned the game for around 5 years and fully finished it twice, I still was nowhere close to memorising where all the items are. So I relied heavily on this incredible map: https://jayisgames.com/review/knytt-underground.php#prettyPhoto[walkthrough]/2/

Here's a very poorly drawn illustration (drawn on top of the in-game map) of the exact route i took: http://imgur.com/a/VkkRP

And for anyone interested in the run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IK6W4pMeyU

I make a LOT of small mistakes, including one bigger one in the middle of the run, but it still turned out to be my best time (and it took a good 20 resets so I was absolutely determined not to reset again  )

I get 4 Flowers, 4 Stones, 4 Artifacts and 2 Glyphs throughout the run, as well as 10 coins. There are a few 'tricks' where I do things in a weird order, but in my opinion the best way to save time is just to be efficient with your movement in general. Smooth movement saves far more than even the best trick, it seems.

I think there's a lot of potential in this category, so I hope someday someone decides to come along and beat my (not even very good) time!