I think one way to go is combinations of things which results in a really horrible mental image.Hmm, how about these:
The problem with fuck is that it is an extremely unique word that can be used as a noun, verb, adjective and an adverb; there aren't any other swear words I know of that behave like this. Shit works nicely as an adjective- shitty, a noun- shit, and a verb- shit. But what if "that guy is fucking fast?" It also implies a sort of annoyance in description- saying I have to write a fucking paper is a lot different than saying I have to write a god damned paper. Though said and done, I think shit and god damn would be the best and most used/accepted alternatives to fuck.I've seen "sod" being used exactly the way "fuck" is used. For example, in Dragon Age: Origins, at least one character did that, "That sodding bastard", "What the sod is happening", stuff like that, although I'm not sure its being used correctly, it seems very uncommon.
"What the shit?!"
"Ah mother-shit!"
I'll look through facebook and edit in some more later
It's kinda funny trying to genuinely and accurately describe something so... fucking silly :P
how about changing letters to similar sounding letters?Substituting words with similar sounding ones isn't what I'm after. I need new ones.
you phucking asswole. This is sjit.
You could take a page from the playbook of Sir Walter Beck and make liberal use of the word "balls".Interesting :) A bit of googling revealed some really creative use of "balls" in phrases. I shouldn't just take 'em of course, but it can give me some nice inspiration.
I'm not sure I wanna make words up, it works a bit better when spoken than written. Sod is a bit tricky, in a situation where a character gets totally upset and want to scream out "FUUUUUUUUUCK!!!" it's kinda hard with "sod".You can't exactly scream it but "Son of a bitch!" is nearly as common as "Fuck!" as a generic expression of frustration.
Here's the funny part. It allows words such as damn, hell, God, bloody, son of a bitch, sod, tart, crap, bugger, screw, arse, slag, slut, tosser, Christ, dickhead, bitch, shit, piss off, whore, arsehole, prick, bollocks, twat, bastard, wanker and shag.
...You're saying this game is great because profanity isn't as bad as discrimination?
...You're saying this game is great because profanity isn't as bad as discrimination?
Oh, ask her to buy it through the website, it won't mention the language since I'm not legally enforced to put that information on my website (I only really care for them when a content delivery system has specific requirements). Often people worry too much about words like "fuck" and "shit" but have no problem with things that are much worse such as sexism and gender stereotypes. From a moral point of view, this game is great. Kids should definitely play this.
...You're saying this game is great because profanity isn't as bad as discrimination?Yep. Profanity is generally something completely harmless that people worry way too much about. Why would anyone under 16 take any kind of damage from hearing the word "fuck?" On the other hand, the gender roles and indifferences most of the society seems to embrace, presented in media all the time... that stuff does some proper damage. I was really depressed at GamesCom for that reason, the game industry is really behind there, I can't believe how many sexist games that would be within my field of view at any given point.
I was really depressed at GamesCom for that reason, the game industry is really behind there, I can't believe how many sexist games that would be within my field of view at any given point.And "booth babes".
I don't pay much attention to new AAA games, but I don't notice sexism. Sure, there's some degree of sexism even in "booth babes", but I mean I don't recall any sexism that could be considered dangerous.
Sexism is quite pervasive in both the industry and culture of video games. It is bad enough that a woman wanting to create a series of free videos exploring sexism in video games (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games) was met with hundreds of threats of rape and other violence (http://www.feministfrequency.com/2012/06/harassment-misogyny-and-silencing-on-youtube/).That's not a well representation of situation with sexism I think, the video got attention of trolls community and that's how ugly trolls are. For her they've been a huge help though. She got $150k thanks to them and when I searched "sexism" on google one of the first results I got was this video. BTW I liked YouTube comments on the screenshot, such as "Would be better if she filmed this in the kitchen" or "tits or gtfo", these are exactly the right responses to that boring video.
A good example of sexism in AAA games is the trailer for Hitman: Absolution, which positively presents a man killing a group of hybrid nun/dominatrix/assassins. You can view it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKlEjPMXC1I)Yeah, that one looks disturbing, it's like killing kids, which became a complete taboo in games. Something that sensitive persons shouldn't see.
Sexism also manifests in slightly subtler ways, such as a developer of Borderlands 2 casually referring to an easier mode within the game as "girlfriend mode" (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2012/aug/14/borderlands-2-girlfriend-mode).A lot subtler I would say. It's a harmless joke. It seems some people just love to feel offended by everything, even by jokes like this.
That piece also brings up rape culture with regards to gaming culture, something you can read more about here. (http://fozmeadows.tumblr.com/post/24890426643/rape-culture-in-gaming)I didn't read much into the article, but found out about Penny Arcade comic thanks to it. :)
A lot subtler I would say. It's a harmless joke. It seems some people just love to feel offended by everything, even by jokes like this.It's one of a thousand variants of "what are you, a woman?" which suggests men are supposed to be stronger and better and that there is some kind of shame being thought of as feminine as a man. I've heard these jokes way too many times to wave it away as harmless, even though that's what they are meant to be. Also, when stereotypical male properties are assigned to females, it tend to be thought of as something positive. All this just suggests that male > female, and it's an idea that really needs to change.
That's not a well representation of situation with sexism I think, the video got attention of trolls community and that's how ugly trolls are.It's just not Anita. Feminists who blogs or write for other medias are frequently attacked and threatened. I've followed a bunch of such stories myself. There seems to be a whole lot of males who take personal offense when inequality between genders is suggested to be a problem. I wonder why it's so touchy. And even if "they're just trolling", the fact that it's so frequent against women expressing feminist views... does that really make it any better?
One important thing is that sex and beauty isn't equal to sexism. I'm not the slightest bit opposed to neither sex, beauty, or nudity in games. The reason I find it a problem with the game industry is the way males and females are pretty much always portrayed.
while every female character who isn't in need of being rescued totally fails being a candidate for women fighters in reasonable amours (http://womenfighters.tumblr.com/).
Games have nothing to do with real-life intolerance and sexist attitudes, but they make easy scapegoats for cultures that are afraid to take a hard, honest self-critique to find the real root causes. Apologetic gaming insiders and opportunistic media folks are not helping either.
I agree that the fact that sexism and other discrimination forms are so present in video games is absolutely terrible. However, I fail to see a connection to profanity or how exposing kids to profanity is going to change anything.My point was (well, from the start at least) just that people sometimes worry too much about the wrong things. Use the word "fuck" and the game is instantly forced into a PEGI-16 rating, but sexism may not affect the ratings at all. Then from there the topic shifted into being about sexism because... well, it's one of those topics that do tend to grow when it comes up X)
So you praise female characters that aren't sexist? Alex Vance from hl2, I find her character annoying. She's only appreciated because she don't put out and is a 'strong' female character. Isn't this exactly the same thing? You're making a stereotype out of something as a counter measurement to a stereotype.I didn't find her annoying at all. While it's true what you say with sometimes we fight stereotypes by making stereotypes, I didn't actually feel too much of that with her character just because she's "strong" or whatever. I thought of her as a likeable and well developed character.
If it was called "girl's mode", then yes, but "girlfriend's"? When I read it I pictured a situation when a man player gets his girlfriend into the game he plays, she would surely play worse. Men are more into computer games overall, so the situation is very believable.QuoteA lot subtler I would say. It's a harmless joke. It seems some people just love to feel offended by everything, even by jokes like this.It's one of a thousand variants of "what are you, a woman?" which suggests men are supposed to be stronger and better and that there is some kind of shame being thought of as feminine as a man. I've heard these jokes way too many times to wave it away as harmless, even though that's what they are meant to be. Also, when stereotypical male properties are assigned to females, it tend to be thought of as something positive. All this just suggests that male > female, and it's an idea that really needs to change.
It's just not Anita. Feminists who blogs or write for other medias are frequently attacked and threatened. I've followed a bunch of such stories myself. There seems to be a whole lot of males who take personal offense when inequality between genders is suggested to be a problem. I wonder why it's so touchy. And even if "they're just trolling", the fact that it's so frequent against women expressing feminist views... does that really make it any better?I agree.
Just today I saw women walking holding hands, men openly and casually dressing and behaving like the opposite sexThese men would surely have problems in Russia, there's a lot of homophobia here. Yet, if these are normal everyday sightings, that's also a problem. It's another extreme that is wrong.
Alex Vance from hl2, I find her character annoying. She's only appreciated because she don't put out and is a 'strong' female character. Isn't this exactly the same thing? You're making a stereotype out of something as a counter measurement to a stereotype. everyone has preconceptions, it doesn't mean everyone can't keep an open mind.I think she's cool. She didn't annoy me.
The story is kinda weird in this game, I'm a bit afraid of releasing it ...As I actually have some background info on this, let me be the one to tell you not to worry. I've seen worse stories do well. I bet most people will see it like I do, as if it was done to add a bit of comedy to the game, because thats basically what it does. You put it in such way in the game that it makes it an enjoyment rather than a serious story (which I think is a very good way to tell the story)
I hope it works. The game deals with things that are quite serious and personal, and I figure making something funny out of it that doesn't take itself too seriously is a nice approach.Good! I don't like when things are so over done and overly perfected that they become consumed by themselves.
I hope it works. The game deals with things that are quite serious and personal, and I figure making something funny out of it that doesn't take itself too seriously is a nice approach.
I always find excessive profanity (or pseudo-profanity or general negativity) annoying. I mean, why do we use profanity? To express negative feelings. Excess profanity = excess negativity (in my head) = depressing. To me it would detract from the game. End of opinion. 8)
I'm not sure I wanna make words up, it works a bit better when spoken than written. Sod is a bit tricky, in a situation where a character gets totally upset and want to scream out "FUUUUUUUUUCK!!!" it's kinda hard with "sod".