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Title: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: LPChip on March 21, 2009, 10:38:14
People are raising the question that we should have a place to put finished levels, here on the forum, for the time being.

I've had a chat with Paula about this. Although we both think its a bit pointless, we don't mind adding a temporary forum.

What does this mean?
We will make one forum where people can make a post to give people a link to their new Knytt Stories level. You will need to find a place to upload your levels, but that can be done at knyttlevels.com putting a link to that location.

Once the new system is ready, we will remove the temporary forum, meaning that you have to repost your level, and you'll loose all the comments you already had given.

We will not activelly moderate those topics where it comes to: a level must be conform a template. Its temporary, so we're not going to put that much energy in it.

After reading this, do you still want to have a temporary forum for the time being, even if the new system could be ready in 2 weeks? (I can't say when its ready though, but in 2 weeks is an option if things go well)

The poll will expire in 7 days from now, after which the results will be made public. You cannot change your vote, so vote wiselly.


As you may have noticed when looking at the forum index, the temporary forum is already set up now, since it became obvious quickly enough that those in favour of the idea were the majority. So...yeah.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: PONTO on March 21, 2009, 11:06:20
I think we can wait. In my opinion, it's going to be worse if people get all their comments deleted.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Razzorman on March 21, 2009, 12:20:16
I don't mind posting my levels twice. We will have to do so anyways with all our old levels that were not on the archive anyways.
Also, i have no problems with the comments being deleted. I'm not making levels for popularity or anything like that, just for the fun in creating something fun. I don't need to hear a compliment or criticism twice to understand it.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Shawnachu on March 21, 2009, 14:11:09
In fact, I think posting twice can help increase the popularity of your level where there is more people. Then, when you go to post it on knyttlevels.com, people will look for your level.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: EarthBound015 on March 21, 2009, 15:33:01
I can wait, actually.  I hope it wont be too long, but I can wait.  I do have a question, I think I read that people will not be able to comment on your levels through KL.com, is this true?
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: minmay on March 21, 2009, 15:56:08
Although I won't use it myself, I believe a temporary forum should be created.  I know there are a lot of people who want it.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Miss Paula on March 21, 2009, 16:13:36
I think I read that people will not be able to comment on your levels through KL.com, is this true?

According to my information, it's absolutely not true. X)
Look:
Once I got that working correctly, I will start adding the ability to upload levels. After that, I will make something to query the levels using different ways, like: by author, date added (newest), then I'll add support for commenting on a level, cus at that stage you'll actually be able to browse them. Then I will add a rating system, and from there I probably take requests.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Gorfinhofin on March 21, 2009, 16:41:19
We can wait. I agree with PONTO, there would be a bunch of helpful comments getting deleted if we made a temporary forum.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Dataflashsabot on March 21, 2009, 17:29:30
Yes, there should definitely be a temporary forum. Personally I don't think moving to the archive is a good idea at all, but it seems a decision has been made and not likely to be changed, so whatever. We do at least need somewhere to post our levels until the archive is done. One thing: Reading your post, I get the impression we won't be allowed to post levels as attachments anymore. Is that the case? 
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: googoogjoob on March 21, 2009, 17:57:56
Erm, why are we switching from having a third party levels board to having a separate website in the first place? :S
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: KG on March 21, 2009, 18:51:21
Erm, why are we switching from having a third party levels board to having a separate website in the first place? :S

I read somewhere something about it taking up a lot of space (maybe 'cause it's the most popular board?) which could be 'better' used for... whatever new things are being put on this forum. I think it was LPChip who said this.
I think. I think.

Also, this poll makes it seem like what the higher-ups are doing is okay no matter which option you choose, which does not coincide with my personal opinion.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Miss Paula on March 21, 2009, 19:57:57
mind elaborating on what your personal opinion is, then? :huh:
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: EarthBound015 on March 21, 2009, 20:02:34
Whatever happens, happens.  There is no use in fighting it, they already know what they want to do.  You don't know how things will turn out until they have actually been put into motion, keep your mind open and welcome new things instead of throwing everything to the curb because it is something you don't THINK will be good.  I don't even think this poll is necessary, just keep your levels and wait until KL.com is ready, you might, in fact, like it.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: PONTO on March 21, 2009, 20:33:54
Erm, why are we switching from having a third party levels board to having a separate website in the first place? :S
Because you will be able to browse the levels much more easily, it will have a rating sytem so that you can find good levels easily, unlike the current site, you will be able to delete oder versions of levels... Just advantages, really, I can't see why people are so skeptic about this, since you will be able to do everything you used to (upload and comment levels) and a lot more.

Considering that, it makes no sense to have subforum for the exact same thing, but with less functionality. What is being debated is if it is justified to have a temporary one, while you wait. LPChip already said he is willing to create that. Still, it's pointless because everything is going to be deleted later... :/
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Pumpkinbot on March 21, 2009, 22:24:37
I think one word can sum this up: Yesthatwouldbeagreatideawereallyneedtodothis! :)

Seriously, I think calling something a waste of forum space on a small forum is kind of ridiculous. :/
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: BloxMaster on March 21, 2009, 22:51:01
I don't see how a temporary one could hurt. If people are worried about it being deleted when something better comes up, then they just shouldn't post, and should wait. I personally probably will wait, but I don't see how a temporary forum could hurt, as long as people understand it is temporary.  :)
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Budja on March 21, 2009, 23:01:06
Yes, it is necessary especially for new level-designers. Not having a levels board discourages level-making IMO.

Also, I second Blox. Exactly my opinion.

Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Mathexpert on March 22, 2009, 05:48:36
I think that the knyttlevels.com will be completed not too far away from now, so I don't think it is necessary.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Purple Pineapple on March 22, 2009, 07:17:14
Guys. Remember you can say that your finished level is on Knyttlevels, or (if I remember correctly) change a preview thread into a level thread once you are done.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: googoogjoob on March 22, 2009, 07:33:15
Guys. Remember you can say that your finished level is on Knyttlevels, or (if I remember correctly) change a preview thread into a level thread once you are done.

You can say the finished level is on the archive, but I think doing so would be essentially asking for the topic to be locked. You can't change a preview thread into a level thread, or you'd just be able to post level threads in the first place.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Purple Pineapple on March 22, 2009, 08:02:41
Right... I'm mistaken... hmmm :|
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: LPChip on March 22, 2009, 13:33:35
The poll already shows that a majority wants this, so I'm going to add the forum. Feel free to vote though, if you still haven't. The poll remains open for 7 days in total.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Rixanu on March 22, 2009, 15:51:13
I think it's nice to have a place where level designers can post their levels in the meantime. I don't really think it's fair to make them wait to release them. Whether they care about re-posting or not is their problem. Based on what I'm hearing about the archive, it sounds like it's going to a fair amount more organized and efficient, which is something I like to see when doing something like downloading KS levels. Plus, I'm pretty sure LPChip mentioned that the archive has more space than the forum as well. I'm just wondering if the forum will be a lot less active as a result, as the old board was the "main attraction", so to speak.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: KG on March 22, 2009, 17:02:04
mind elaborating on what your personal opinion is, then? :huh:

Oh.
I think there doesn't need to be a temporary forum thing or whatever--although the idea of something taking up 'too much' forum space (on this forum with such relatively little activity, even) is pretty silly to me, but I also don't think there needs to be a separate site for submitting levels in the first place. As far as I've been concerned, the third-party levels board suited its purposes quite well enough (and, for that matter, was what many people seemed to come to the forum for).
However, the new levels archive is already under construction and there's no reason for me to stand against it--it would not make a difference, anyway.
But still, I feel like this was an unnecessary project for whomever to start on just to... make something look cool? I don't even know.
It doesn't really matter to me, because I do not frequent the forum like some people seem to, and who cares in the end, anyway? I've just generally noted some things are kind of off about the way things are taken care of at this forum.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: PONTO on March 22, 2009, 17:52:47
As far as I've been concerned, the third-party levels board suited its purposes quite well enough (and, for that matter, was what many people seemed to come to the forum for).

[...]

But still, I feel like this was an unnecessary project for whomever to start on just to... make something look cool? I don't even know.

I beg to differ. I didn't check those boards everyday, so anytime I was like... I want to play a KS level, I'd go there and get lost among all the new levels, many of them not especially good. Also, I was forced to chose a difficulty category (because that's how the subforum was divided), while I didn't really care about that.
Some times, in order to find a specific level, I was forced to browse through lots of pages.

To avoid all that mess, I sometimes went to knyttlevels.com. Well, there everything would be disorganised. Lots of versions of a level (and often none of them the latest), some good levels not there... You get the idea.

The solution  being worked on seems to cover all those problems. I don't understand why so many of you are unreceptive to this.

EDIT: And I even forgot to mention the tilesets and custom objects mess...

EDIT2: And I'm not saying this just because I'm a staff member.
In fact, I'm often against decisions made by the administration (and LPChip can confirm that for you), but I think this is one of those cases where they are doing exactly the right thing. You should stop complaining for a while. If I were him doing all this for you and always being pulled down, I might have lost motivation long ago. Really, let him do his thing and THEN either complain or show appreciation.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: minmay on March 22, 2009, 19:06:37
The main reason I'm unreceptive to this is that levels will get much less attention.  With the forum, people can chat about all aspects of a level, with topics reaching over 5 pages for really good levels.  It's very rewarding for a designer to see one of his levels generating a lot of gossip.

With the archive, such levels will probably get around 30 comments over the course of a few days, and then it will almost completely stop.  This sort of thing happens with every custom level archive I've ever seen, so I doubt this one will be different.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: EarthBound015 on March 22, 2009, 20:18:23
The main reason I'm unreceptive to this is that levels will get much less attention.  With the forum, people can chat about all aspects of a level, with topics reaching over 5 pages for really good levels.  It's very rewarding for a designer to see one of his levels generating a lot of gossip.

With the archive, such levels will probably get around 30 comments over the course of a few days, and then it will almost completely stop.  This sort of thing happens with every custom level archive I've ever seen, so I doubt this one will be different.

I guess there is only one way to find out.  I'm sure they will have a link up on the support forum for the level archive, I don't see how that is any different than actually having the levels on the forum, seeing as how it was all just links to other pages.  A simple click is all you need.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Razzorman on March 22, 2009, 20:22:24
With the archive, such levels will probably get around 30 comments over the course of a few days, and then it will almost completely stop.  This sort of thing happens with every custom level archive I've ever seen, so I doubt this one will be different.

Well, the link to the archive will pretty much be disguised as a link to a sub-forum, and its still the same community playing the levels and making comments, so that might not happen here.
I was going to come with a good suggestion for how to make sure that wont happen, but then I remembered that we are not allowed to do that until its either too late or Chips solution doesn't work. <_<
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: drwright on March 25, 2009, 20:43:06
So once, the New Knytt Levels Archive is done, are we going to be able to link to a file we put on Knytt Levels or is that a no no? Are we going to be able to discuss a level on this site that is uploaded to KL or is commenting strictly limited to the archive site?
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Kasran on March 25, 2009, 20:45:46
So once, the New Knytt Levels Archive is done, are we going to be able to link to a file we put on Knytt Levels or is that a no no? Are we going to be able to discuss a level on this site that is uploaded to KL or is commenting strictly limited to the archive site?
The point is that commenting will be limited to the archive. :S
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: PONTO on March 25, 2009, 21:50:02
So once, the New Knytt Levels Archive is done, are we going to be able to link to a file we put on Knytt Levels or is that a no no? Are we going to be able to discuss a level on this site that is uploaded to KL or is commenting strictly limited to the archive site?
The point is that commenting will be limited to the archive. :S
So what? So far, commenting was limited to the subforum! What's the big difference? You even use the same account! Really, start complaining when it's done, if you have to. Until then, stop it, because it will only serve to demotivate LPChip. You aready have your temporary subforum...
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Kasran on March 25, 2009, 22:51:55
So once, the New Knytt Levels Archive is done, are we going to be able to link to a file we put on Knytt Levels or is that a no no? Are we going to be able to discuss a level on this site that is uploaded to KL or is commenting strictly limited to the archive site?
The point is that commenting will be limited to the archive. :S
So what? So far, commenting was limited to the subforum! What's the big difference? You even use the same account! Really, start complaining when it's done, if you have to. Until then, stop it, because it will only serve to demotivate LPChip. You aready have your temporary subforum...
Not complaining. I was just giving an explanation of what I thought was going to happen.
Yeah, the :S was a bit uncalled-for there... sorry. :(
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Comhon on May 28, 2009, 14:06:27
We are waiting for the knyttlevels.com a long time.
Can someone know the progress of it?
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Purple Pineapple on May 30, 2009, 05:05:59
Indeed. I'm beginning to wonder if there is some problem.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: LPChip on July 05, 2009, 11:21:51
Its time for an update. :)

I've found a bit of time to get some progress and now I have everything in the system to make you able to login and the system will understand that you're you.

The next stage is actually a bit easier, and thats getting fileupload etc. working.

I'm most certainly not finished yet, but the login part was really really hard. I had some nasty bugs, that I unfortunatelly had to solve by making workarounds.

I still can't give you an estimated releasedate though, but I thought an update would be wanted. :)
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: RunMan on July 05, 2009, 11:32:39
Good to hear, that you are making progress :)
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Evil on July 05, 2009, 12:40:14
Can you put a commenting feauture thingy on kslevels.com when you're done with everything and have nothing to do? :D?
because I dont want to be downloading really ..weird levels D:
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: LPChip on July 05, 2009, 15:35:42
Can you put a commenting feauture thingy on kslevels.com when you're done with everything and have nothing to do? :D?
because I dont want to be downloading really ..weird levels D:

This feature is one of the reasons why I'm rewriting the entire engine. But as pointed out earlier, please don't make suggestions until I release a final version and you're still missing something. I have so many features already planned, that I'm sure I will cover everyone's needs.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Teper on July 06, 2009, 02:23:09
I'm glad to see this is still working. Have you yet defined a site map?
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: LPChip on July 06, 2009, 08:42:40
I'm glad to see this is still working. Have you yet defined a site map?

What do you mean as a sitemap?
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Pick Yer Poison on July 06, 2009, 08:48:09
I'm glad to see this is still working. Have you yet defined a site map?
What do you mean as a sitemap?
Sitemaps define what links will lead where. They're a commonly used organization tool for websites.
Spoiler: Example sitemap (click to show/hide)
[/talking like Wikipedia]
Although I dunno if you need a sitemap for knyttlevels.com, unless you're planning on adding a bunch of superfluous features or I'm forgetting something obvious.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: LPChip on July 06, 2009, 10:48:32
In that case: no I haven't.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: inky84 on July 07, 2009, 08:44:26
I don't know why, but I can't really use knyttlevels much, because my family gets annoyed, as uploading there slows the internet down heaps...
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: LPChip on July 07, 2009, 09:09:03
That happens if you fully utilise your upload speed. To combat this, use a program to limit your upload, and put the max upload just below what you can reach.

Say: you can reach up to 497kb, then set it to 495kb.

For downloading, you also need an upload connection, as every several bytes require you to send a verification byte. If your upload is full, the verification byte is being queued, making your internet download being queued too.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: inky84 on July 07, 2009, 10:11:43
That happens if you fully utilise your upload speed. To combat this, use a program to limit your upload, and put the max upload just below what you can reach.

Say: you can reach up to 497kb, then set it to 495kb.

For downloading, you also need an upload connection, as every several bytes require you to send a verification byte. If your upload is full, the verification byte is being queued, making your internet download being queued too.
hmm, sounds interesting... know anywhere I can get some kind of limiter?
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Salmoneous on July 07, 2009, 10:49:40
LPChip, is the new knyttlevels done soon? how much have you done? when will it be finished?
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: RunMan on July 07, 2009, 11:21:00
I still can't give you an estimated releasedate though, but I thought an update would be wanted. :)
<_<
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: LPChip on July 07, 2009, 13:04:52
LPChip, is the new knyttlevels done soon?
Could be...
how much have you done?
Alot...
when will it be finished?
When its done.


These questions, I've also answered in my last post, so I'm not really expecting you to read this anyway.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: LPChip on July 07, 2009, 13:06:07
That happens if you fully utilise your upload speed. To combat this, use a program to limit your upload, and put the max upload just below what you can reach.

Say: you can reach up to 497kb, then set it to 495kb.

For downloading, you also need an upload connection, as every several bytes require you to send a verification byte. If your upload is full, the verification byte is being queued, making your internet download being queued too.
hmm, sounds interesting... know anywhere I can get some kind of limiter?
google for a program called NetLimiter.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: 1020/Collen on August 02, 2009, 18:36:17
The forum is better than the level portal. There this game thats called SMF (super Mario flash)
It has a level editor where we shared are levels on the forum. People could comment on are levels a tell us if there good or not. Same thing with the forum. But the the owner of the forum made a horrible level portal because he wasn't listening to his members (even his mods)
The everythin g got ruined and a mod made another forum just like it where he and Guard were admins.  (Princess Daisy/Amanda became a admin later) Anyway keep the section for completed knytt stories. its for the good of your users.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Razzorman on August 02, 2009, 19:24:29
The forum is better than the level portal. There this game thats called SMF (super Mario flash)
It has a level editor where we shared are levels on the forum. People could comment on are levels a tell us if there good or not. Same thing with the forum. But the the owner of the forum made a horrible level portal because he wasn't listening to his members (even his mods)
The everythin g got ruined and a mod made another forum just like it where he and Guard were admins.  (Princess Daisy/Amanda became a admin later) Anyway keep the section for completed knytt stories. its for the good of your users.
I think that turned bad for completely different reasons (http://nifflas.ni2.se/forum/index.php?topic=1123.msg11732#msg11732).

An off-site level archive is not a bad idea in itself, especially if you integrate it well enough with the forum.
It only becomes bad if the community goes out of hand and/or the archive itself is flawed.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Strange Darkness on August 23, 2009, 03:19:53
Umm LPChip ....  :/
could there be perhaps an.... update maybe? or maybe a percentage you think you have done? or even just a comment on your progression.I know this is a big thing your doin but could you?..Please? ...:awsum:
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: LPChip on August 23, 2009, 12:56:00
I'll give an update when I can actually give one.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: AClockworkLemon on September 03, 2009, 09:16:38
LOL. (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4378/grinc.gif)
I recon you guys should just stop asking and take a chill pill. It'll be done WHEN ITS FINISHED (funnily enough!) and If you think about it, each of your repeditively boring "are we there yet"s he responds to, taking up time In which he could be making the portal.
And anyway, Even LPChip, Even a super awsmoe ultra-mod HAS A LIFE TO DEAL WITH TOO! (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4378/grinc.gif)

EDIT:
Quote
I recon you guys should just stop asking and take a chill pill.
Yeah, well, I took a bit of my own advice and swallowed one myself
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Salmoneous on September 08, 2009, 21:09:08
No. Damn it. Finish it.

*Puts a spoon in my mouth and a pot on my head.*
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: LPChip on September 08, 2009, 21:56:28
You're acting like a jerk. Do you really want to be threated like one?
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: LimeLemon on September 08, 2009, 22:23:06
Elder Salmoneous is like that. Random and straight-forward. Just accept it.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: minmay on September 08, 2009, 23:04:04
Uhh, guys, it was sarcasm.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Mathexpert on September 09, 2009, 00:26:57
Elder Salmoneous is like that. Random and straight-forward. Just accept it.
after all the mafia games, I have also seen that trend... :P
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Purple Pineapple on September 09, 2009, 05:25:16
Uhh, guys, it was sarcasm.
So you're saying Salmoneous doesn't want it finished?
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Teper on September 26, 2009, 02:11:27
No. Damn it. Finish it.

*Puts a spoon in my mouth and a pot on my head.*

I kindda join Salmoneous here,  without being such offensive. I mean, you can't tell that it will be finished when it's finished.  This is going on since February. I'm not, in any way, accusing you(LpChip, J) of doing nothing, since you all must have many more important stuff to do .

I never understood why knytt stories custom levels were to be posted on another website, instead of being posted on NSF. I then though, "why not, there will be a poll to rate levels and other cool  stuff.

The fact is this promised renovated knyttlevels.com is not coming.This is problematic at a moment when many KS level makers are leaving.

My opinion is:
? either knyttlevels.com is 80% finished and ready to  be put online soon, with  a deadline
? either 1/3 of the stuff has been made  with no precise delay , and in this case, I suggest you abandon the project and allow KS level posting on the forum.

Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: PeppyHare4000 on September 26, 2009, 02:36:01
You're acting like a jerk. Do you really want to be threated like one?
Ya, He did the same thing with my level release (This looks dull and boring like ive played it a thousand times). Take your time with the advance level archive to make it its best :)
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: Evil on September 26, 2009, 04:34:38
Patience is a virtue

It makes us better people.
Title: Re: Temporary forums until Knyttlevels.com is done?
Post by: PeppyHare4000 on September 26, 2009, 04:40:04
Yup. Without it, There will be chaos. Its all worth it in the end though.