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Temporary => Knytt Stories Level Releases => Topic started by: LPChip on March 22, 2009, 21:19:17

Title: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: LPChip on March 22, 2009, 21:19:17
I've decided to make the first post in this forum. Its a repost from the old forum with my most popular level. I didn't posted it because I want feedback or anything... Just so this forum isn't empty anymore.


Story:
Juni goes visiting her uncle. Her uncle just finished creating his latest invention. While this invention hasn't been tested, Juni accidentally uses the machine, and gets trapped in a strange world. By means of exploring, its her job to get back.

Gameplay information:
When we played Knytt, it were the secrets that made the game interesting.

So I was thinking... What would happen if you have a level full of secrets... No... What would happen if you have a level where you must find secret, after secret, after secret... :)

With this idea, The Explore Challenge was born.

The main question is: How well can you find the secret walls? Some will be in very obvious places, and some will be in the most unexpected places.

You're warned though, I did a small puzzle/challenge from time to time to make it more fun to play the level. You won't find enemies in this level, which means that you can play it at any speed.

Can you spot the hidden place just by looking where it could be? Can you think outside the box? If those are a yes, this level certainly will entertain you!

What this story features:
Own music, Own story and a big secret! (make sure you find it)

Download:
Grab it here: http://files.lpchip.com/temp/LPChip%20-%20The%20Explore%20Challenge.knytt.bin.zip
Note, that this story also is included in the official expansion pack.




Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: Pumpkinbot on March 22, 2009, 21:30:10
Glad you decided to do this. :)

Anyway, I've played this, and it's confusing, but good. :P
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: Purple Pineapple on March 22, 2009, 21:38:45
This is one of my favorite expansion pack levels. Besides the music, this is an excellent example of making a level look good without having all the beauty of an environmental level. :)
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: PONTO on March 22, 2009, 22:16:32
I played this almost two years ago... =)
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: AClockworkLemon on March 29, 2009, 08:33:20
Awesome level, i havent finished it yet, but it really gives your brain a workout!
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: Kasran on March 29, 2009, 17:07:14
Whoo, I finally beat the level without constantly cheating!
(I cheated most of the time, but not all. :P)

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: LPChip on March 29, 2009, 18:42:45
Whoo, I finally beat the level without constantly cheating!
(I cheated most of the time, but not all. :P)

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Well done. :) It feels much more rewarding if you can beat it without cheating, doesn't it? :)
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: Purple Pineapple on March 29, 2009, 19:29:47
Well done. :) It feels much more rewarding if you can beat it without cheating, doesn't it? :)
When I first played this game, I got stuck in the room with the secret passage. (I thought that it was an impossible jump.) So, I checked the editor and found the other way out. I went back in the game, thinking that it was the right way to go, not a secret.
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: Nohajc on March 30, 2009, 20:36:09
Excellent level, if not the best ever! I love brain teasers of any kind, so i couldn't have missed this one. :)
I must say it's very smartly done. Also original. And the music? I enjoyed it as well.

Finding secrets itself didn't seemed so hard to me. I have quite simple system: To crawl through all over the place, anywhere I can possibly get with climbing. Only those parts which you must try several times in order to find the right way took me a while to figure out.
And the second part of level when you have to go back to the startpoint to discover the whole new half of the world... just great.

All I can say: Splendid work. :D
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: LPChip on March 30, 2009, 21:33:25
Excellent level, if not the best ever! I love brain teasers of any kind, so i couldn't have missed this one. :)
I must say it's very smartly done. Also original. And the music? I enjoyed it as well.

Finding secrets itself didn't seemed so hard to me. I have quite simple system: To crawl through all over the place, anywhere I can possibly get with climbing. Only those parts which you must try several times in order to find the right way took me a while to figure out.
And the second part of level when you have to go back to the startpoint to discover the whole new half of the world... just great.

All I can say: Splendid work. :D

Thanks. :) This does make me wonder how you found the challenge in the 4th screen or so. Its the one where you enter the screen on the right side, to find blocks with lasers on them and alot of possibilities, with the exit on the least to be expected location. :D

Once you get the first cutscene, the screen that comes next.
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: Dandelion on June 01, 2009, 01:20:24
This topic hasn't been posted in for a long time, and I hope no one minds me reviving it. Anyway, the level was... boring. I didn't get very far, but when I reached the point where you go down holes and only one of them doesn't kill you, I got too frustrated to continue, especially when I checked the editor and it seemed to be a dead end. The level did look nice though. Secrets are fun when you find one, but the actual process of finding a secret (checking every tile) isn't fun, and when theres no secret room it isn't rewarding.
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: googoogjoob on June 01, 2009, 01:42:21
But there is a secret room.
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: Dandelion on June 01, 2009, 01:57:53
But there is a secret room.
Do you mean the one with
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
I meant that after you find a secret, you just have to go through the tedious task of finding another one with no reward.
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: LPChip on June 04, 2009, 14:39:37
Not everyone finds it rewarding to look for secrets, but some of us do. I noticed that it was this that kept Knytt interesting to most of us. Its also that reason why I made this level in the first place.

I personally like finding the secrets, and did it in such way that its a bit puzzling. Do note that going down there actually DOES get you somewhere. You'll get the eye and a message on what to do next.
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: Dandelion on June 04, 2009, 18:28:20
I can see that people like this level. Everyone but me gave it a positve reveiw. I just isn't my kind of thing. I din't know about warps and stuff when I played this, so it seemed like a dead end to me.
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: LPChip on June 04, 2009, 19:19:45
I can see that people like this level. Everyone but me gave it a positve reveiw. I just isn't my kind of thing. I din't know about warps and stuff when I played this, so it seemed like a dead end to me.

Well, I don't mind that you don't like it. Its always the case that whatever you make, there always will be someone that doesn't like it. I can't satisfy everyone. I don't want to satisfy everyone either for that very same reason. If you like it, I'm thrilled, if you don't I can't force you to play the level. Yes, you can just edit the level to find the cheatcode. I don't mind about that either.

And oh, there aren't warps.

Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: googoogjoob on June 04, 2009, 20:44:49
Not everyone finds it rewarding to look for secrets, but some of us do. I noticed that it was this that kept Knytt interesting to most of us. Its also that reason why I made this level in the first place.

I'm inclined to think that most people who found the secret area in Knytt did so with help.
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: 4a on June 04, 2009, 20:46:20
Not everyone finds it rewarding to look for secrets, but some of us do. I noticed that it was this that kept Knytt interesting to most of us. Its also that reason why I made this level in the first place.

I'm inclined to think that most people who found the secret area in Knytt did so with help.
Guilty.
I didn't even like Knytt. As soon as I learned about the secret, I cheated the rest of the game.
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: LPChip on June 04, 2009, 22:25:52
Not everyone finds it rewarding to look for secrets, but some of us do. I noticed that it was this that kept Knytt interesting to most of us. Its also that reason why I made this level in the first place.

I'm inclined to think that most people who found the secret area in Knytt did so with help.

True, I'm even guilty of that myself. But hadn't I visited that area, I would've stopped playing Knytt alot earlier. In fact, I would've finished Knytt, then not play it. With the secret area, I've been there 10 to 20 times just because its secret! dunno...
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: Purple Pineapple on June 04, 2009, 23:51:53
Not everyone finds it rewarding to look for secrets, but some of us do. I noticed that it was this that kept Knytt interesting to most of us. Its also that reason why I made this level in the first place.

I'm inclined to think that most people who found the secret area in Knytt did so with help.
Probably never would have known about it if it didn't slip loose so many times on the forum.
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: victor12 on June 06, 2009, 10:48:13
im stuck on screen in the attachment with run, climb and high jump. help!
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: googoogjoob on June 06, 2009, 10:52:54
If I recall correctly...
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: More explicit. (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: LPChip on June 06, 2009, 20:40:32
And if that really doesn't help you and you give up, read the following spoiler:

Spoiler: Yes I give up (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: victor12 on June 09, 2009, 17:19:27
i got it. thanks.
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: MilkMan on June 09, 2009, 17:50:25
I couldnt agree more with Dandelion's reply, i didnt have fun playing this level and i stopped at the exact same place, sorry.
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: LPChip on June 14, 2009, 09:41:47
Thats okay :)
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: TheBigL1 on September 19, 2009, 21:29:48
I just started this again today, and although I think I managed to get farther than last time, I've gotten stumped at two places...
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
Are those really dead ends, or am I doing it wrong?
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: Purple Pineapple on September 19, 2009, 22:21:36
1st one:
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
2nd one:
Spoiler: (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: ErSorro on September 20, 2009, 17:57:52
I really liked this level, and finished with no cheats. Congrats!!!
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: LPChip on September 29, 2009, 10:50:00
Thanks. :) Did you also find the big secret cave?
Title: Re: [hard][puzzle/maze]The Explore Challenge
Post by: ErSorro on September 30, 2009, 11:32:25
Yesssss. I finished it the first time I played, and played again only to find the cave. Congrats again for this fantastic level.