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General => About Nifflas' Website and Forum => Topic started by: Soron on April 13, 2009, 20:41:13

Title: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Soron on April 13, 2009, 20:41:13

This is really an amazing addition to the forums but when did you come up with the idea?
Wow :O

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: minmay on April 13, 2009, 20:53:39

Considering how brusquely the staff regards most similar additions to the forum, I am extremely surprised that they were not only willing to add something like an arcade, but that they did so without any visible demand for one.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on April 13, 2009, 21:20:18

We've choosen to add one seeing that I am not making that much progress on the knyttlevels.com site as much as I want to do that. Other than that, people are visiting the site less often because there isn't much to do here. I thought this would be a great addition and would certainly compensate for that what people are missing. :)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Evil on April 13, 2009, 21:37:48

The title and the arcade reminds me of "Za Warudo!"

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Razzorman on April 13, 2009, 21:55:45

Yay for the arcaed!

Edit: I'd like to see you beat my highscore in avoider! >)

Edit 2: Under the "view highscores" link it says "You may have only 1 scores at same time". Shouldn't it be "You may only have 1 score at the same time"?

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Pumpkinbot on April 13, 2009, 22:36:51

I remember something like this on I Ride The Lines. :) Good times... 8)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Gorfinhofin on April 13, 2009, 23:39:43

We had one of these at the Prosperity Sphere forums. I remember pwning all at Asteroids, and a stupid, literally unplayable game called Alphasoup :P2

EDIT: Please look into adding Asteroids.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: AmADizii on April 14, 2009, 00:03:48

Edit: Fixed.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: googoogjoob on April 14, 2009, 00:06:29

...this seems pretty arbitrary to me. I can't imagine that this will bring more traffic; the games (or extremely similar ones) are all easily available elsewhere, so the only people who end up playing them here will be the people who already visit the forum regularly. (Even then, everyone will eventually get bored of the arcade games.) I can't imagine it'd work to try to attract people to a forum built on the work of an indie game developer who makes reasonably idiosyncratic games with cheesy Flash games they could find on dozens of casual gaming sites.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Dataflashsabot on April 14, 2009, 00:10:03

Are more games gonna be added? Unique, Nifflas-themed games would be awesome. EDIT: Or multiplayer ones, but that'd be really hard, mebbe even impossible in flash.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on April 14, 2009, 00:34:41

the idea, I think, is to keep people here. because some said that there is so little to do.
Now I know, the games are not hyper-awesome. But for the start, I guess a bit of competition between members can be fun. Or something like that.
Then, about the games in general. And spelling errors. This is a smf mod, an addon or plugin. That means not everything is our fault (X)), texts are mostly like they are by default and only changeable to a very limited extent, if at all, afaik. So don't fret about spelling. :P
second, games. the ones you see now are the contents of one pack out of 19, if I remember correctly. mostly just added to have a start/test. I guess. I don't know about the quality or anything of the rest of available games. the current options aren't the forever fixed set of games, though, I'd say, and subject to additions/removals as soon as one of the admins decides to devote some time for such. ;)
As long as nobody makes a flash-edition or a "themed" game from Nifflas' creations, though, it's not likely at all to be added. And since Nifflas prolly really has other things on his mind, I wouldn't get hopes up.
:)

tl;dr:
no spelling fixes, additional games only as time and availability as flash game permit, intended purpose firstly to keep people interested a bit. :|

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Pumpkinbot on April 14, 2009, 00:46:11

Nifflas should make a competitive game maker that us memnbers can use to make arcade games. :shifty:

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: googoogjoob on April 14, 2009, 01:11:05

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on April 14, 2009, 00:46:11

Nifflas should make a competitive game maker that us memnbers can use to make arcade games. :shifty:

Nifflas should make Flash?

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Mathexpert on April 14, 2009, 01:18:40

I wonder if you have to pick a game from the packs, or if you can upload your own games.. :shifty:

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Pumpkinbot on April 14, 2009, 01:20:31

Quote from: googoogjoob on April 14, 2009, 01:11:05

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on April 14, 2009, 00:46:11

Nifflas should make a competitive game maker that us memnbers can use to make arcade games. :shifty:

Nifflas should make Flash?

If it has to be, yes. X)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: chipset on April 14, 2009, 01:47:47

Well, when I first looked at the arcade, I basically agreed with some of the things that Goog mentioned. However, some of the games were fun, although a bit simplistic, when I started playing them (like Avoider). I like simplistic games though. :P

Basically, the only difference that I can see between playing these games on the forum here and on a flash game site is that when you play them on here there would be some competition between the forum members. I wouldn't mind this, as long as there's no arguing or bragging, etc...

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 14, 2009, 02:01:49

Ok. The diamond collector or whatever: I played it my first time, and got like 3890. But then, I saw a "game over" screen flash by for a second. Then, my ship dissappeared, and my energy level started rising. It's ok, though. I totally pwned my old score. :P2

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: SiamJai on April 14, 2009, 07:03:05

Interesting!

This is a good sign that staff takes user feedback into consideration. Hopefully this arcade will be a success, given enough time. :)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on April 14, 2009, 11:04:11

I will be adding games over time. Don't worry. The only thing that make this take a while is that I want to screen each game prior to activating it.

The screening means several things: I'll be looking if we already have similar games so we won't have 2 identical games. I'll be looking for possible game glitches (read: avoider, I missed that one), and I'll be testing if the game is actually fun enough to play. Then ofcource I need to assign it to a cathegory, which will make it public.

I'll be looking into getting other flash games up. The script seems able to allow me to add games, but I need to look into this.

So the first thing I'll be doing is, adding all the games from the 16 available packs (yes, I thought it were 19 too and gave Paula the wrong info. I hereby appologise to you Paula. :)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: SiamJai on April 14, 2009, 11:53:29

Cool, LPChip! It's reassuring that the games go through QA before going live on the Arcade. :)

Real-time highscore-duels are particularly fun! In fact, I just received a note that someone (again) took my champion title at Pingpong! So if you excuse me for a minute or two... ;)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on April 14, 2009, 15:57:00

:D Yeah, this is great.

I added another game or two, and also removed Avoider, because it seemed too glitchy/cheat sensitive.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Razzorman on April 14, 2009, 18:56:58

Yeah, avoider was pretty glitchy. I got 32000 or something because all the blocks got stuck in the upper left corner.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Soron on April 14, 2009, 19:17:15

Oy LP, I highly recommend adding nifflas' game pop or dodge square :D.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: BloxMaster on April 14, 2009, 19:32:34

Quote from: Soron on April 14, 2009, 19:17:15

Oy LP, I highly recommend adding nifflas' game pop or dodge square :D.

That would be neat, but doesn't seem possible for a number of reasons.  :S

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Soron on April 14, 2009, 19:50:28

yeah, Maybe a mockup version?
I mean like a mock of it written in flash.
Nifflas really should do flash :O

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: googoogjoob on April 15, 2009, 03:05:27

...I can't see Nifflas taking time away from other game projects in order to learn Flash and then use it to port two minigames he made like five years ago into Flash.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 15, 2009, 05:58:10

I'm sure anyone with enough flash experience could port such minigames fairly easily. (If Nifflas complied)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on April 15, 2009, 11:38:58

There might be even similar games for that.

But I won't be investigating time and effort in finding out how to add a game that doesn't come with a presetted isntaller for SMFArcade until I installed and checked all the games that are currently available for download.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on April 15, 2009, 18:44:33

I just wanted to say that you should remove Ballo (look at the highscore for details), and be better at bug testing the games in the future.

Also, why does two of the games say "Game not found" (they have two plays btw, and only appears on the statistics page), and what's up with the "We have 29 games for you to play?" and Paulas 17 played games and 13 champions? It must be that some of the games are admin/mod only... I assume you do that for testing, but then you should disable scores, champions and all other statistics for them.

Besides that I really, really like the arcade... I think I'm addicted! :D

Thank you!

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on April 15, 2009, 21:51:12

sorry for the inconveniences.
"Being better at bug-testing" is easier said than done, I suppose, especially if at the same time you complain about the fact that there are admin-only games (respectively, that those are still visible in certain places), because unfortunately that's the only way testing can be done. ;)

alright. I removed the Ballos game, and replaced some games with versions that seemed a bit nicer to me. I hope you don't mind that your scores for those are gone with them.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Salmoneous on April 15, 2009, 23:10:52

This is very nice, I really appreciate this, Tetris is my favorite so far.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Gorfinhofin on April 15, 2009, 23:41:04

Asteroids made my day. Thank you very much.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: SiamJai on April 16, 2009, 03:11:17

Yes, Asteroids is a nice retro addition.

I wonder, does anyone else have bug problems with Breakit? I found that the only way the "game over" screen comes up is if I purposefully run out of balls on Level 1. The game doesn't register gameover at higher levels - it simply continues without balls.

Edit: now Level 2 let me pass to the gameover screen - sort of. I got the message that "score could not be saved because session was missing" - yet the new score is present on the scoreboard, just without any comments. Bugs, bugs.

Btw, the browser is Firefox 2, and it's the only application running.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 16, 2009, 06:02:08

Same problem here.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on April 16, 2009, 10:43:27

Yes, breakit has lots of bugs... should be removed.

Quote from: Miss Paula on April 15, 2009, 21:51:12

sorry for the inconveniences.
"Being better at bug-testing" is easier said than done, I suppose, especially if at the same time you complain about the fact that there are admin-only games (respectively, that those are still visible in certain places), because unfortunately that's the only way testing can be done. ;)

alright. I removed the Ballos game, and replaced some games with versions that seemed a bit nicer to me. I hope you don't mind that your scores for those are gone with them.

I didn't complain over that some games are admin only, I complained about that it's unfair that the score for them is saved and stored on the statistics, it's good that you have some admin only games for testing, but please remove the score and statistics for them... and about "Being better at bug-testing"... I can help you if you want, it seems like I'm good at finding bugs in these games... I have even found one in Gunslinger, but it's small and I don't think it can help you to get a better score... I actually lost some points because of it (but it shouldn't be a problem for anyone either, it's easy to avoid when you know it, and you have to trigger it yourself, it can't "pop up" randomly)! X)

So PM me if you want help with bug testing or want to know more details about the bugs.

And thank you very much again for making this wonderful arcade! :D

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on April 16, 2009, 14:44:22

Again, I suppose I didn't explain that good enough, the games cannot be tested within the arcade environment without scores and such being enabled. Or from the other side: we can't disable the scores for the admin only games. Or for anything, for that matter, as far as I know.
About Breakit, I also experienced a glitch, but dear LPC was at first reluctant to remove the game. Looks like we'll have to look around for a replacement.
Gunslinger....want me to replace it with a (to me) rather boring version of Space Invaders? :P2

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on April 16, 2009, 15:06:06

No thanks, Gunslinger is just fine (but you could also add space invaders, that would be cool, and we need many more games IMO (not complaining, I know you're working on it :P)).

But it still really bothers me that LP and you have lots of champions and are the most active players... can't you test the games OUTSIDE the "arcade environment"? I mean, you have to get those games from somewhere, right?

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on April 16, 2009, 15:38:35

No we can't.

But its only a matter of time before these games get to be released to the public. We do not put big scores on the games before releasing it. We just play a little bit, find out about it, and then loose on purpose.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: 4a on April 16, 2009, 16:00:12

Quote from: LPChip on April 16, 2009, 15:38:35

No we can't.

But its only a matter of time before these games get to be released to the public. We do not put big scores on the games before releasing it. We just play a little bit, find out about it, and then loose on purpose.

I think you mean lose on purpose. 9_9

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Klämrisk on April 17, 2009, 15:17:12

Might I add a suggestion?

If it's possible, I think it would be practical with a 'mute' button so that you don't have to hear the annoying beeps and bleeps in the games. I listen to music while playing the arcade games and the bleeps annoys me a lot.  :/

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on April 17, 2009, 15:39:35

I know what you mean, the sound stuff does annoy me often enough too, but I don't think there is such an option. :/

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: BloxMaster on April 17, 2009, 16:18:09

You could mute <insert browser name here>, so you can't hear the games, but could listen to music from another program. I know you can do it on Vista, I have done it many times. :)

(Right click on the volume icon in the taskbar, and choose 'Open Volume Mixer'. Just turn down the browser. Do note that windows saves the settings.)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Pumpkinbot on April 17, 2009, 22:18:29

Quote from: Kl?mrisk on April 17, 2009, 15:17:12

Might I add a suggestion?

If it's possible, I think it would be practical with a 'mute' button so that you don't have to hear the annoying beeps and bleeps in the games. I listen to music while playing the arcade games and the bleeps annoys me a lot.  :/

I totally agree. I often mute KS and play some of my own music. And by "beeps and bleeps," do you mean "the beeps, the sweeps, and the creeps?" X) [/spaceballsreference]

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Klämrisk on April 19, 2009, 17:22:34

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on April 17, 2009, 22:18:29

Quote from: Kl?mrisk on April 17, 2009, 15:17:12

Might I add a suggestion?

If it's possible, I think it would be practical with a 'mute' button so that you don't have to hear the annoying beeps and bleeps in the games. I listen to music while playing the arcade games and the bleeps annoys me a lot.  :/

I totally agree. I often mute KS and play some of my own music. And by "beeps and bleeps," do you mean "the beeps, the sweeps, and the creeps?" X) [/spaceballsreference]

Of course I mean the beeps *pop...pop,doooooopop....pop,doooooo*
the sweeps *lllmmmlllmmlmlmmllmmlllmm*
aaaaand the creeps *dudidudidedidu*  X-P

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Salmoneous on April 23, 2009, 09:50:08

I got best highscore in dark tunnel. Try and beat it!

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: SiamJai on April 23, 2009, 12:55:55

Quote from: Salmoneous on April 23, 2009, 09:50:08

I got best highscore in dark tunnel. Try and beat it!

*Yawn*

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on April 24, 2009, 22:55:50

I was just wondering...
Burger time has been admin only for more than 8 days now, and there are also two other games... any idea when they will be released to public?

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on April 24, 2009, 23:05:39

when we admins feel like it? :P2
really, it's not like we're adding games in the background and schedule them to go public after a certain amount of time. it's just someone might find a fun one and add it to test it and then wait for some relatively random day to introduce it.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on April 25, 2009, 01:02:41

Okay, thanks... I guess. X)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Pumpkinbot on April 25, 2009, 18:03:56

LimeLemon, if you love can moderately stand us, you'll not go to the arcade. How can you get that high a score?! D:

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on April 25, 2009, 18:21:15

I'm pretty good at most of these games. And games in general.
I just wonder how you can get such LOW scores!

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Pumpkinbot on April 25, 2009, 21:46:46

Quote from: LimeLemon on April 25, 2009, 18:21:15

I'm pretty good at most of these games. And games in general.
I just wonder how you can get such LOW scores!

<_<

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on April 26, 2009, 00:05:13

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on April 25, 2009, 21:46:46

Quote from: LimeLemon on April 25, 2009, 18:21:15

I'm pretty good at most of these games. And games in general.
I just wonder how you can get such LOW scores!

<_<

What?

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Purple Pineapple on April 26, 2009, 00:46:36

I'm just going to say that LimeLemon is the reason I quit Arcade.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Gorfinhofin on April 26, 2009, 01:18:46

A life lesson: Once you stop letting losing bother you, you'll be a lot happier.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Budja on April 26, 2009, 02:25:54

Yes, its all just a bit of fun. You don't have to get first to enjoy it.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: googoogjoob on April 26, 2009, 03:06:37

The existence of a high score system emphasizes the importance of score, and makes score a motivation for playing.

It's not impossible to have fun knowing (thinking) you can't get a high score, but it partially kills the motivation.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Pumpkinbot on April 26, 2009, 06:15:00

Quote from: LimeLemon on April 26, 2009, 00:05:13

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on April 25, 2009, 21:46:46

Quote from: LimeLemon on April 25, 2009, 18:21:15

I'm pretty good at most of these games. And games in general.
I just wonder how you can get such LOW scores!

<_<

What?

Quote from: Purple Pineapple

I'm just going to say that LimeLemon is the reason I quit Arcade.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Dynamite on April 26, 2009, 07:44:33

Someone beat my Aussie-Xmas game score

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Strange Darkness on April 26, 2009, 08:49:56

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on April 26, 2009, 06:15:00

Quote from: LimeLemon on April 26, 2009, 00:05:13

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on April 25, 2009, 21:46:46

Quote from: LimeLemon on April 25, 2009, 18:21:15

I'm pretty good at most of these games. And games in general.
I just wonder how you can get such LOW scores!

<_<

What?

Quote from: Purple Pineapple

I'm just going to say that LimeLemon is the reason I quit Arcade.

Thats a stupid question  :P

how i can get a low score?

well let me explain when you start a game you do the opposite to what it wants you to do!  :crazy:

But your not a very good loser so i guess you wont understand  :^^:

....

 XD XD XD sorry couldnt help myself

Dynamite your on!

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on April 26, 2009, 11:34:04

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on April 26, 2009, 06:15:00

Quote from: LimeLemon on April 26, 2009, 00:05:13

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on April 25, 2009, 21:46:46

Quote from: LimeLemon on April 25, 2009, 18:21:15

I'm pretty good at most of these games. And games in general.
I just wonder how you can get such LOW scores!

<_<

What?

Quote from: Purple Pineapple

I'm just going to say that LimeLemon is the reason I quit Arcade.

Actually, I must admit that I also kinda quit the arcade because of me. Or maybe because of you. It's no fun when you're champion in so many games without any competition, and the other five... well, I grew tired of them.
I would be really happy if someone beat one of my scores, or if we got a new game! :D

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on April 26, 2009, 12:09:17

sigh. would you all be happier if the scoring would be disabled alltogether and you'd just play for nothing? :P

it turns out that either there aren't really many good/fun/whatever games that work with the arcade without problems or time-consuming/skill-demanding requirements to make them work, or I just suck at finding them. Being the way I am, I wouldn't completely deny the latter, but lean towards thinking the former more likely. erm. XD

so, uh...people are never happy with what we do! :sad:
;)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Dynamite on April 26, 2009, 13:11:25

Quote from: Miss Paula on April 26, 2009, 12:09:17

so, uh...people are never happy with what we do! :sad:
;)

I love it! But can we post new games or something? Like, I pm'ed LPChip about this and I asked if the game designers could post games. The problem is Multimedia fusion doesn't have a flash feature yet, but we can save them as Java files if that would work.

So I think making this more fun would be if we can post our own games or possibly find good games over the web and show everyone.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on April 26, 2009, 13:15:36

Quote from: Dynamite on April 26, 2009, 13:11:25

Quote from: Miss Paula on April 26, 2009, 12:09:17

so, uh...people are never happy with what we do! :sad:
;)

I love it! But can we post new games or something? Like, I pm'ed LPChip about this and I asked if the game designers could post games. The problem is Multimedia fusion doesn't have a flash feature yet, but we can save them as Java files if that would work.

So I think making this more fun would be if we can post our own games or possibly find good games over the web and show everyone.

I totally agree!

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on April 26, 2009, 18:07:21

I think I mentioned that in the chat before:
For a game to work with the arcade, it needs to be a flash (.swf) file in a .zip that also includes a .gif of the same name (as an "icon" for the arcade list). And its score system needs to be compatible with the smf arcade plugin, so that scores can actually be saved. I do not know whata exactly the requirements for the latter are, though.

This does make it more difficult than just stumbling over a flash game on the web and simply implement it (aside from the fact that taking a game from some place and put it here without the author knowing about it/having agreed to such isn't legal,) I'm afraid.

But if you find one/make one that meets the above requirements, there's nothing against telling us about that. And when someone here has time/energy, it could get tested, I suppose.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on April 26, 2009, 23:17:04

Paula's response is basically what I PM'd you Dynamite. X)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Dynamite on April 27, 2009, 00:07:41

Quote from: LPChip on April 26, 2009, 23:17:04

Paula's response is basically what I PM'd you Dynamite. X)

Not the flash part. I just wish the flash feature for Multimedia fusion was out yet, but it's going to come out sometime later in the year.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Kasran on April 27, 2009, 13:22:16

Quote from: Dynamite on April 27, 2009, 00:07:41

but it's going to come out sometime later in the year.

And you're totally, completely sure that that wasn't an April Fool's prank? :U
It was posted on April 1st, if I remember correctly.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Dynamite on April 28, 2009, 09:03:40

omg, there's been like a 10 page discussion on this in the Clickteam forum, and it wasn't an April fools prank  X)

The prank was making everyone think it was a prank!

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Strange Darkness on April 28, 2009, 10:17:53

Quote from: Dynamite on April 28, 2009, 09:03:40

omg, there's been like a 10 page discussion on this in the Clickteam forum, and it wasn't an April fools prank  X)

The prank was making everyone think it was a prank!

Offtopic, that was like a machinima series (freeman's mind (half life 2) there was episode 10.5 and well.. cant say it but something bad happend (cant say it because someone might want to watch it) and because it was posted the day before april the 1st people thought it was april fools but others say not

sorry for the offtopic but heres the ontopic

ummm this is just a suggestion but super mario the old school one? can you guys add that
i mean who DOESNT like mario? its easy and im pretty sure someone can beat limelemon  :crazy:

thats all i have to say  :)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on April 28, 2009, 12:13:57

I'll think I'll just ignore any suggestions that don't comply with the stuff I said a few posts up. <_<

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Strange Darkness on April 29, 2009, 08:41:15

Quote from: Miss Paula on April 28, 2009, 12:13:57

I'll think I'll just ignore any suggestions that don't comply with the stuff I said a few posts up. <_<

Okay understood  :)

(sorry Paula ...*ahem*... Miss Paula)

Title: Request for the arcade
Post by: Feline Monstrosity on April 29, 2009, 15:25:28

I would like to request a game for the arcade, if it is possible to add more: minesweeper! It's a classic puzzly game and I love it!

EDIT: Oh, err. I just read Paula's post in the other Arcade thread. Does this mean if I want a game added I need to find (or create) it first? And sorry if this should have been posted in the other thread.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on April 29, 2009, 15:55:47

topics merged.
Basically, yeah.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: 4a on May 05, 2009, 20:24:27

Is "Gunslinger" really an "Arcade Classic"? I mean, of the given categories, I'm not sure what would be more appropriate, but it definitely doesn't feel like an arcade classic to me at all.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on May 05, 2009, 20:43:32

I guess it's put in there because it's of the style of a classic, and because nobody could be bothered to think up really elablorate and well-thought-through categories. :P2

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: 4a on May 05, 2009, 20:46:37

Maybe "Shoot 'em Up" or "2D Shooter" would work? :O
Man it sure is the most boring 2D shooter ever though.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on May 08, 2009, 18:05:45

Boring? No, it's pretty fun in the beginning, but gets repetitive somewhere between 10 and 20 thousand.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: 4a on May 08, 2009, 20:31:25

Quote from: LimeLemon on May 08, 2009, 18:05:45

Boring? No, it's pretty fun in the beginning, but gets repetitive somewhere between 10 and 20 thousand.

Boring. Yes. The same exact enemies over and over again. Even some original repetitive shooter games like "Galaga" had variety--and enemies did more complicated things in later levels.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on May 09, 2009, 01:09:32

Why are you nowhere on the highscore, btw?

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Pumpkinbot on May 09, 2009, 04:23:49

Quote from: LimeLemon on May 09, 2009, 01:09:32

Why are you nowhere on the highscore, btw?

<_< Don't start this again.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on May 09, 2009, 14:19:55

...what?

I was just saying that 4a hasn't submitted any score on gunslinger...

Spoiler: highscore table (click to show/hide)

Position Member Time Score Comment
1 LimeLemon April 14, 2009, 16:55:26 110695 Since people seems to wonder how I got this score, here's the secret: KEEP CLICKING FOR HOURS!!! (I could do it again, and get an even better score, but then I would die out of boredom...) 
 
2 KG May 02, 2009, 23:04:50 17990 No comment
3 LPChip April 16, 2009, 20:57:56 15870 Your score is a little higher than I thought. I already thought I beated you, then I noticed you have like 9 times more  I'm not even going to try beating that.
4 LightningEagle April 14, 2009, 00:13:43 6345 adding almost 2k to the last score D: this IS too easy
5 Dataflashsabot April 14, 2009, 15:03:24 3115 3rd place still... could be worse
6 Budja April 15, 2009, 10:37:16 2975 4th
7 NintendoMaster May 02, 2009, 10:42:17 2315 5th.. 
8 Igiari April 15, 2009, 21:12:28 2110 The enemies are rather repetitive. 
9 Pumpkinbot April 13, 2009, 22:18:56 1635 Oh, what? 110 THOUSAND?! :U
10 SiamJai April 14, 2009, 07:34:13 1525 Clickety-click...
11 Razzorman May 05, 2009, 21:16:57 1085 Yawn... Boring stuff...
12 Soron April 14, 2009, 17:58:32 1070 and so I lame 
13 Evil April 13, 2009, 23:42:44 1045 My TINY cousin used this account to play this game
14 FlyingPigBoy April 24, 2009, 19:16:54 1015 Grrr... LimeLemOOONNNN!
15 Comhon April 15, 2009, 13:47:56 715 ???110695??? HOW???
16 smeagle April 14, 2009, 12:00:42 550 No comment
17 sorryamerica April 21, 2009, 04:17:31 540 No comment
18 RoyaleBlue April 19, 2009, 19:36:54 540 No comment
19 Tooplark April 17, 2009, 01:35:10 350 Man, if you add up all our scores you'd not even have half LimeLemon's!
20 EarthBound015 April 13, 2009, 22:06:15 300 No comment
21 BloxMaster April 13, 2009, 22:28:35 295 No comment
22 Klämrisk April 14, 2009, 08:08:38 240 
23 Evilguy April 14, 2009, 14:31:01 235 What the hell was that?
24 TheRealTJ April 18, 2009, 17:59:58 225 No comment
25 Firecat April 13, 2009, 21:24:42 180 wow, i suck
26 Miss Paula April 21, 2009, 18:59:09 75 yep, this is plain boring.
27 lilmanjs16 April 14, 2009, 00:22:43 55 No comment

http://nifflas.ni2.se/forum/index.php?action=arcade;sa=highscore;game=12

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Pumpkinbot on May 10, 2009, 00:51:04

The reason he's not on the high score list is because it's futile to try to beat your score. And clicking for hours will only get you hit and lose projectiles, causing your score to drop. :)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on May 10, 2009, 13:36:00

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on May 10, 2009, 00:51:04

And clicking for hours will only get you hit and lose projectiles, causing your score to drop. :)

I didn't mean literally.

1. Change weapon to fast plasma
2. Spam it when a wave comes
3. PROFIT!!!

Even though you spam, most of the projectiles should hit. If you aim at least somewhat good.

EDIT: Oh, and I now noticed Yeti Pingu Throw has 1337 plays!

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Dynamite on May 10, 2009, 13:57:57

How the hell do you play that brainiac game?! I did it in like lightning speed and I got a heaps low score....how the heck do you even score in that game?

And what's with the secret alien language that you have to solve or something?

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on May 10, 2009, 15:16:16

That alien language thingy has nothing to do with the game, just match the pairs. The score is based on how fast you do it, and maybe also how many clicks.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: 4a on May 12, 2009, 16:32:37

Quote from: LimeLemon on May 09, 2009, 14:19:55

...what?

I was just saying that 4a hasn't submitted any score on gunslinger...

Oh, I see what he's talking about.
The reason is when you get less than zero, your score isn't submitted for some reason. I played it for a while and thought, "This is boring" and intentionally went below zero. 9_9

Quote from: Pumpkinbot on May 10, 2009, 00:51:04

The reason he's not on the high score list is because it's futile to try to beat your score. And clicking for hours will only get you hit and lose projectiles, causing your score to drop. :)

I find it funny you guys think I'm a guy.

Also, maybe on topic, I found this really weird message from Tooplark in my messages:

Quote from: Tooplark on May 01, 2009, 21:57:25

This is an automatic notification from Arcade. Tooplark is now champion of everything because he/she is made of win. You cannot try to reclaim title (http://nifflas.ni2.se/forum/index.php?action=arcade).

O.o

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Tooplark on May 12, 2009, 23:39:08

Quote

Also, maybe on topic, I found this really weird message from Tooplark in my messages:

Quote from: Tooplark on May 01, 2009, 21:57:25

This is an automatic notification from Arcade. Tooplark is now champion of everything because he/she is made of win. You cannot try to reclaim title (http://nifflas.ni2.se/forum/index.php?action=arcade).

O.o

That's just my sense of humor :P

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: 4a on May 13, 2009, 16:44:45

Quote from: Tooplark on May 12, 2009, 23:39:08

That's just my sense of humor :P

Seemed like disgruntlement to me, but okay.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Dynamite on May 13, 2009, 23:58:26

someone HAS to beat my Aussie-Xmas game score  X)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on May 14, 2009, 20:38:44

I feel the same about Gunslinger.

And the other 9 games btw.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on May 15, 2009, 00:40:21

If both of you feel that the top score should be changed, I can remove both of the scores X)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: 4a on May 15, 2009, 16:12:45

:O
But you're keeping my high score in Otello right?
I like how it's a puzzle game, which I think we need more of, rather than something totally mindless.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on May 16, 2009, 02:13:07

Quote from: LPChip on May 15, 2009, 00:40:21

If both of you feel that the top score should be changed, I can remove both of the scores X)

Nah, it's ok... :P

But I would really appreciate if we got a new game. It feels like the arcade is dead...

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Dynamite on May 16, 2009, 02:53:18

I fail  :sad:
I cheated in the Aussie X-mas game  :ohnoes:  :shocked:  :sigh:

I was tired of being last in every game so I made a program that makes the mouse swing from left to right extremely fast and made it click every 1 mili second so santa could NEVER hit the ground...
But he fell through a gap and that's how I got my score.

Someone delete it...

EDIT: I also made some other programs to cheat on some other games but they didn't work, the only one that worked was the Aussie-Xmas game.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Razzorman on May 16, 2009, 13:25:00

Quote from: LimeLemon on May 16, 2009, 02:13:07

But I would really appreciate if we got a new game. It feels like the arcade is dead...

It is dead. You killed it by being too awesome for us lowly mortals. :P

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on May 16, 2009, 15:03:59

I have an idea about how to revive this. I'll discuss this with Paula.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on May 16, 2009, 16:37:50

Quote from: Razzorman on May 16, 2009, 13:25:00

Quote from: LimeLemon on May 16, 2009, 02:13:07

But I would really appreciate if we got a new game. It feels like the arcade is dead...

It is dead. You killed it by being too awesome for us lowly mortals. :P

... XD
sorry

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Purple Pineapple on May 17, 2009, 19:29:46

Quote from: arcade

Did you know that LimeLemon has claimed way too many champions?

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: chipset on May 18, 2009, 03:07:50

Yeah, I guess there's some people that are better at games than others.
Anyway, it would be great if there could be a refresh in games every couple of months (perhaps to get new champions :P). I'd like that, at least.

edit: I reread through this topic and it seems like it would take a lot of time to test out the games before they are put into the arcade. So, I don't know. Maybe if there was a special group of people who could do this...

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Salmoneous on May 18, 2009, 08:45:08

I tried to beat some scores, like the yeti game. But it gets boring to play the same game over and over again.

In yeti game I got over 300 on the first shot and around 300 on the other two and I thought that I for sure would beat LimeLemon but on fourth hit I missed the damn penguin.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on May 18, 2009, 08:54:49

This games requires a lot of patience, yes.
And just continue, Salmoneous, you can't give up when you're so close! That's how I thought when I got all my champions anyway.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Dynamite on May 18, 2009, 11:16:02

Seriously, unless LimeLemon got the highest score in his first 5 plays of the game...well then I think he just wasted a lot of time. Really, he probably spent hours just trying to perfect his score which the only thing that has done is put a negative effect on everyone else.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on May 18, 2009, 12:56:02

Quote from: Dynamite on May 18, 2009, 11:16:02

Seriously, unless LimeLemon got the highest score in his first 5 plays of the game...

That's true for at least half of the games, yes.
For the the other games, maybe half an hour each. When I realise I can't beat the highscore, I give up.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on May 18, 2009, 13:03:35

Quote from: LimeLemon on May 18, 2009, 12:56:02

When I realise I can't beat the highscore, I give up.

Everyone does, thats the problem.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on May 18, 2009, 13:17:33

... :O
...never thought of that...

But I still play some games that are fun. And some games I feel I can at least get a little closer to the top in.

The reason I quit the arcade is because I sucked at 1/3 of the games, and have no competition in the other 2/3.
I don't really know why I have highscored 2/3 of the games, I haven't spent very much time on them... it must be, as I have said earlier, that I am good at these kind of games. Or that other people give up to fast. Getting a highscore requires lots of patience.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Gorfinhofin on May 18, 2009, 17:57:50

I'd be more determined to beat the Asteroids high score if the arcade's version wasn't so buggy :P2 (respawning in the path of asteroids, for instance)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on May 19, 2009, 08:23:53

Quote from: Gorfinhofin on May 18, 2009, 17:57:50

I'd be more determined to beat the Asteroids high score if the arcade's version wasn't so buggy :P2 (respawning in the path of asteroids, for instance)

Thats not called buggy. This is a quite good representation of the original astroids on the amiga. Yes, it also happened there that on a respawn, you could get killed by an astroid. Prevent that from happening ;)

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: KG on May 19, 2009, 18:01:02

I found this game on the old forums: http://www.vivalagames.com/play/cursorthief/

All I know is that it's Flash, so I can't say if it's compatible or not. It's pretty fun I think.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Dataflashsabot on May 19, 2009, 18:20:22

If it's not designed or modified for the SMF Arcade, it's not compatible. The admins don't have enough time to modify it themselves. If anyone has Flash, the can probably modify it themselves; the required information can be found on the SMF Arcade forums.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on May 19, 2009, 19:42:49

There's pretty many in their own arcade: http://www.smfarcade.info/forum/index.php?action=arcade

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Gorfinhofin on May 19, 2009, 22:59:25

Quote from: LPChip on May 19, 2009, 08:23:53

Thats not called buggy. This is a quite good representation of the original astroids on the amiga. Yes, it also happened there that on a respawn, you could get killed by an astroid. Prevent that from happening ;)

Actually, the original was the arcade machine. The version I enjoyed the most was the one that came with (I think) Windows 95, which did not have that rather unfair feature, but could be different from the original.
Incidentally, if anyone knows where I could get the Windows 95 Asteroids, I would be very happy :P2

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Purple Pineapple on May 20, 2009, 02:03:32

Google?

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Salmoneous on May 20, 2009, 22:00:26

Quote from: Dynamite on May 16, 2009, 02:53:18

I was tired of being last in every game so I made a program that makes the mouse swing from left to right extremely fast and made it click every 1 mili second so santa could NEVER hit the ground...
But he fell through a gap and that's how I got my score.

Thats pretty smart. Applause on you.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Gorfinhofin on May 20, 2009, 22:29:40

Quote from: Purple Pineapple on May 20, 2009, 02:03:32

Google?

No, I've tried that :sigh:
All that gives me is remakes generally.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Purple Pineapple on May 21, 2009, 01:35:44

Quote from: Salmoneous on May 20, 2009, 22:00:26

Quote from: Dynamite on May 16, 2009, 02:53:18

I was tired of being last in every game so I made a program that makes the mouse swing from left to right extremely fast and made it click every 1 mili second so santa could NEVER hit the ground...
But he fell through a gap and that's how I got my score.

Thats pretty smart. Applause on you.

No. No applause goes to cheaters!

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on June 03, 2009, 08:19:20

Requesting removal of Boomshine and Happy Pill. See my comments on the highscore board.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on June 03, 2009, 13:25:12

No, I disagree about removing boomshine. Even the description says that it's not firstly about any score. In my point of view it's about just a more or less pretty (but indeed rather random) combination of colours and music. If anything can upset you that much just because you can't get an uber-high-score, then you probably just shouldn't play it. There are enough other games that provide that, I guess.
But yeah, the other one is stupid I suppose.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: 4a on June 03, 2009, 16:03:28

I noticed that LimeLemon said something like "I don't like the way this game works" when he got a lower high score than Igiari, then he got a higher score and had no comment, then when KG got an even higher score LimeLemon went back to being annoyed.
It's not all about high scores, kid. 9_9

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on June 03, 2009, 19:18:45

My comments has nothing to do with me being champion or not. I actually said " I don't like how this game works" before Igiari beat me, and when I beat him I just didn't feel like repeting myself... and I haven't had so much time to play on the arcade (I have played most games less than 5 times (while KG really have been wasting too much time)), but I went back and played the game again and realized the scores really was unfair and... yeah.

But if you don't want to remove Boomshine (I agree that it's a nice game if you don't care about scores), could you at least remove the scoreboard and/or champion thingy? Beacuse it's unfair if someone (Me, KG, Igiari, anyone) gets a champion for being lucky at a random game while others earn their champions in hard games that require skill.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: 4a on June 03, 2009, 19:27:18

Removing the high scores for one game seems pretty silly. 9_9
If the high scores don't matter, then removing them would be acknowledging that they do in fact matter. So just ignore it if it doesn't matter. Besides, there's that reset thing being done now, so you'll have your chance later.
Almost every game employs a degree of random chance. To say that one game in particular which seems to be more random than the rest is completely random is rather unreasonable. Anyway, there's obviously a degree of skill that can be used in Boomshine if you are simply really quick at calculating, that's not to say that people will necessarily be able to acquire that degree of skill since that'd require what looks like superhuman calculation, but the point is it isn't completely random what you can do.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on June 03, 2009, 20:15:52

The only thing I really complain about is that there is no punishment for losing a level, you can just try again. And I know it requires some skill, but mostly luck.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: 4a on June 03, 2009, 20:30:43

I don't like how Gunslinger is so boring and how in Invaders you get game over no matter how many lives you have if the invaders reach you and that there's a glitch in Tetris if you get a piece that reaches the non-center top you can never put anything in that particular column again. 9_9

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on June 03, 2009, 20:56:44

That was some very lame complaints.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on June 03, 2009, 21:15:11

If people can't stop arguing, I don't see why the arcade should be kept.
I had concerns that it would evoke a sense of unkind competition in people, but please do prove me wrong and stay away from arguments about some flash games. Seriously.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: KG on June 03, 2009, 22:28:43

Quote from: LimeLemon on June 03, 2009, 19:18:45

(I have played most games less than 5 times (while KG really have been wasting too much time))

What.
I don't make incorrect assumptions about you.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on June 03, 2009, 23:12:26

It looked like you were very active, at least in the beginning...

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Bored2death on June 04, 2009, 07:55:51

It seems to me there is no need to argue. We can see who the champions are, and we know they have the talent. If we want to beat them, well, we can practice. I, for one, DON'T want to lose the arcade.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: 4a on June 04, 2009, 16:44:38

Quote from: LimeLemon on June 03, 2009, 20:56:44

That was some very lame complaints.

9_9

Well he didn't get it so whatever.

Since the reset thing is active I honestly lost some of the willpower to play the arcade. The only high score I got before was on Otello. That came completely out of nowhere, I'd never played the game before but apparently I'm good at it, but doing all that again... doesn't appeal to me.
So you people have fun with it I guess.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Salmoneous on June 10, 2009, 15:54:17

Nobody gonna try and beat me in Tetris?

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on June 10, 2009, 20:17:14

Quote from: Salmoneous on June 10, 2009, 15:54:17

Nobody gonna try and beat me in Tetris?

Maybe, but I'm no good at it.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Salmoneous on June 11, 2009, 21:53:59

Well, the score is not so good anyway.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Salmoneous on June 12, 2009, 17:08:43

I hate how you in snake cant touch the wall. I think you should change the snake game to a better snake where you can touch the wall.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: googoogjoob on June 12, 2009, 17:43:30

I've never played a version of Snake where you can touch the walls.

Also (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_(video_game)), "The player controls a long, thin creature, resembling a snake, which roams around on a bordered plane, picking up food (or some other item), trying to avoid hitting its own tail or the "walls" that surround the playing area."

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on June 12, 2009, 18:00:52

Quote from: Salmoneous on June 12, 2009, 17:08:43

I think you should change the snake game to a better snake where you can touch the wall.

Once again, it's of little use to complain about the current games if you don't have specific replacement suggestions. Meaning, "replace it with a better one" is not good enough.
It's just really a too tedious, boring, and annoying task to search, find, evaluate and implement new games, only to find out that they might not work with the smf arcade after all or to see that everyone hates them anyways.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: ortoslon on June 12, 2009, 21:31:47

LimeLemon, why don't you record highscore attacks of the more skill-oriented games on video?

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: TechnoGeek on June 12, 2009, 22:36:31

Quote from: Miss Paula on June 12, 2009, 18:00:52

Quote from: Salmoneous on June 12, 2009, 17:08:43

I think you should change the snake game to a better snake where you can touch the wall.

Once again, it's of little use to complain about the current games if you don't have specific replacement suggestions. Meaning, "replace it with a better one" is not good enough.
It's just really a too tedious, boring, and annoying task to search, find, evaluate and implement new games, only to find out that they might not work with the smf arcade after all or to see that everyone hates them anyways.

especially considering that the whole point of snake is to avoid the walls for as long as possible...

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: youffle214 on June 13, 2009, 00:06:40

@TechnoGeek & goog:

There are special versions of Snake, actually, and not even necessarily on the computer. Has anyone played Snake EX2 on the Nokia 6070?
You have an option of Extreme mode, which starts off with no walls at all, and at certain score values an exit appears in the level, and it takes you to the next level. In addition to the dots, it also contains moving bonuses (if you collect them before they expire, you get bonus points). There are six different mazes (No Maze, Box, Tunnel, Spiral, Blockade, and Twisted, in that order). Unlike this version of Snake, in Snake EX2 you have 9 different speeds to choose from. Ahh, the possibilities are endless... :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Dynamite on June 13, 2009, 07:28:26

In some snake game there are no walls, instead you just "warp" around the screen.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Bored2death on June 13, 2009, 07:29:23

then, it gets fairly boring...

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on June 13, 2009, 21:06:16

Quote from: ortoslon on June 12, 2009, 21:31:47

LimeLemon, why don't you record highscore attacks of the more skill-oriented games on video?

Why would I? Do you think I'm cheating? Are you jealous or something?

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Gorfinhofin on June 13, 2009, 23:11:07

I believe he means so that other people can see how you play and maybe it will help them to do better in the games.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on June 14, 2009, 21:43:37

I agree. We've done everything we can to make the arcade as interesting as it can be, but it appears that people will always complain. I guess its in the nature of some people to always have to complain.

Funny is that when you ask them for a solution, they can't find a good solution that actually works.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: ortoslon on June 15, 2009, 07:55:34

Quote from: LimeLemon on June 13, 2009, 21:06:16

Quote from: ortoslon on June 12, 2009, 21:31:47

LimeLemon, why don't you record highscore attacks of the more skill-oriented games on video?

Why would I? Do you think I'm cheating? Are you jealous or something?

Quote from: Gorfinhofin on June 13, 2009, 23:11:07

I believe he means so that other people can see how you play and maybe it will help them to do better in the games.

Gorfinhofin is right. I make such videos and I like to watch them.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on June 15, 2009, 23:19:52

I don't make such videos and I don't think people would like to watch them.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: RunMan on June 26, 2009, 13:28:13

I often get 'Session is missing' message, after submiting score... :(

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: NESgamer190 on June 26, 2009, 15:52:07

If it would be possible, bar access to the arcade from me...  I've gone way off in an arcaderage, soiling myself to be a dirt goblin.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Salmoneous on September 13, 2009, 14:50:32

I think it's a little weird that someone got 140830 points in yeti game. That person must use a cheat ur sumthing.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Dataflashsabot on September 13, 2009, 15:15:36

I found a foolproof way to give yourself any score you like on any of the games a while ago. I didn't use it except to test it by giving myself one point more than I had actually scored on one of the games (then I beat that score legitimately).
When I mentioned it in #niffchat, nobody seemed very interested:

Quote

[18:01] <Dataflashsabot> hm. I'm gonna try giving myself one more point that I actually got
[18:02] <Dataflashsabot> if it works I won't abuse it
[18:03] <Dataflashsabot> it did work
[18:03] <Dataflashsabot> in snake
[18:03] <Dataflashsabot> I got 34, it list 35
[18:03] <Gorfinhofin> Why does this Coke taste so bad?
[18:03] <Dataflashsabot> *lists
[18:03] <Gorfinhofin> Also, I hate stale buns.
[18:03] <Dataflashsabot> should I say how I hacked?
[18:04] <Gorfinhofin> The buns had been in the freezer, and my brother got them out. But all he did was take them out and put them in the bread drawer.
[18:04] <Armand> We
[18:04] <Gorfinhofin> So now half of them are wet and the other half are stale.
[18:04] <Armand> I mean ew
[18:04] <Marsgirl> XD
[18:05] <Dataflashsabot> hm, I could give myself a score of 99999999 :3  but I won't
[18:05] <Armand> The :3 included?
[18:05] <Dataflashsabot> no :P
[18:05] <Marsgirl> XD
[18:05] <Armand> Aw. :(
[18:06] * Armand has quit IRC (Quit: iPhone Ferret -- Away!)
[redacted, cheat info]
[18:07] <Marsgirl> well that's cheating. :|
[18:07] <Dataflashsabot> indeed
[18:08] <Dataflashsabot> I beat my cheated score legit ;)
[18:08] <Marsgirl> thumb.
[18:08] <J> up your.
[18:09] <Azu> huh

So um, whatever. Possible someone else found about it.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on September 13, 2009, 16:40:26

Also, wasn't there supposed to be a monthly reset?

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on September 13, 2009, 17:46:14

As far as I know, it never was decided.

On another note, I'm currently the only one that can do this, and I don't have time for it at the moment.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on September 13, 2009, 17:55:16

We absolutely did decide to do a reset. We just didn't decide how often, so either you or Paula (don't remember) said we would have a monthly reset.

But I don't really care as I don't play it anymore.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Purple Pineapple on September 13, 2009, 19:16:06

Quote from: Dataflashsabot on September 13, 2009, 15:15:36

I found a foolproof way to give yourself any score you like on any of the games a while ago. I didn't use it except to test it by giving myself one point more than I had actually scored on one of the games (then I beat that score legitimately).
When I mentioned it in #niffchat, nobody seemed very interested:

wow. I'm surprised.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on September 13, 2009, 19:54:00

That's basically the general vibe, that nobody really cares/d anyways, so why bother resetting at all. I suppose.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on September 13, 2009, 20:00:26

Yeah, I share that vision.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on September 14, 2009, 08:36:40

If there would have been a monthly reset, it wouldn't have died again.
The reason I stopped playing was because there were no reset. So it just got boring.
It's not really that I don't care, but that I have lost hope.

And also, we need some new games. You should add new games once in a while, maybe with every reset at least? It can't be hard to find since that arcade on the official website has dozens.

Oh, and if you don't have time to add new games or do a reset you shouldn't be running an arcade.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Budja on September 14, 2009, 10:22:35

A monthly reset would defeat the very point of playing in a way. It was an interest/curiosity for a while but was never going to stay so for long.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on September 14, 2009, 11:16:04

I currently don't have the time.

I have bought a house and it takes alot of effort to get things done. On top, I also have the Knytt Level archive to build which I don't even have time for at the moment either. Paula was doing most of the arcade work, but I don't think its fair to remove the arcade right now, simply because I don't have the time for it.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on September 14, 2009, 11:54:51

Quote from: LimeLemon on September 14, 2009, 08:36:40

Oh, and if you don't have time to add new games or do a reset you shouldn't be running an arcade.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Miss Paula on September 14, 2009, 12:58:18

well technically it's not "run" anyways. It's there, nobody is forced to play if they don't like it, and whoever wants to, can.
I find it rather rude how you tell your opinion like it's the only right way to proceed.
It was just a test, a quick idea in the first place anyways. It didn't turn out to be hyperawesome, so what. I can't think of how it could be harmful in any way when it just stays.
Also, I said this before, it is hard to find "good" arcade games. The official website, if I recall correctly, does have "dozens", but many are buggy or stupid or both.
So yeah, overall I think you're behaving quite rude.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on September 14, 2009, 13:53:26

Quote from: LimeLemon on September 14, 2009, 11:54:51

Quote from: LimeLemon on September 14, 2009, 08:36:40

Oh, and if you don't have time to add new games or do a reset you shouldn't be running an arcade.

Yes, I read your reply the first time. Read mine again will ya!

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on September 14, 2009, 13:55:57

They have over 100 games. All can't be buggy and stupid.
Also, I think many would appreciate some of the, in your oppinion, "stupid" games.

And what about your attitude (both of you). You don't seem very motivated, not even in the beginning. And when we discussed the reset the first time it felt like you didn't listen to many of us, just ignored our comments and said your opinion was much better. You were actually very stubborn with some things. I can understand that some things are not possible to do, but... you were really stubborn and pointed out that your oppinion as the best the whole time.
One example is the multiple highscore thingy. Maybe it wasn't even possible, but LP was really stubborn with that and said it was a bad idea even though others liked it. He didn't listen, and presented his opinion like it was fact. He said he knew nothing would get better with that and people wouldn't like it, but I don't remember many complaining, but many liked that idea.
Stop thinking you know best just because you have made it and blah.

This could just be a misunderstanding on my part, but I would like this explained.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on September 14, 2009, 14:58:26

Quote from: LimeLemon on September 14, 2009, 13:55:57

They have over 100 games. All can't be buggy and stupid.
Also, I think many would appreciate some of the, in your oppinion, "stupid" games.

And what about your attitude (both of you). You don't seem very motivated, not even in the beginning. And when we discussed the reset the first time it felt like you didn't listen to many of us, just ignored our comments and said your opinion was much better. You were actually very stubborn with some things. I can understand that some things are not possible to do, but... you were really stubborn and pointed out that your oppinion as the best the whole time.
One example is the multiple highscore thingy. Maybe it wasn't even possible, but LP was really stubborn with that and said it was a bad idea even though others liked it. He didn't listen, and presented his opinion like it was fact. He said he knew nothing would get better with that and people wouldn't like it, but I don't remember many complaining, but many liked that idea.
Stop thinking you know best just because you have made it and blah.

This could just be a misunderstanding on my part, but I would like this explained.

Please get your information straight before starting accusations. I have set more highscores as a temporary solution, and people really disliked it (2 scores at the same time for a game) you amongst others.

I can't set a personal score off-screen and one score for that game with a montly reset unless I put waaaaaaaaaaaay more time in the project than I want or have. So I didn't said that its not possible, I said that its time consuming. The not possible aspect is to integrate a second-sub scoring system into the games, so it would be off-screen somewhere.

But really LimeLemon, your tone is starting to get on many people's nerves. Not just mine.

But I guess that a discussion at this point about how "bad" we do our job is really pointless. I have no time and a discussion like this is not gonna change that. I can remove the arcade, but I see no reason in doing that either.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on September 14, 2009, 15:24:35

Quote from: PM

Whats the matter?
« Sent to: LimeLemon on: Today at 15:07:47 »
     
Hey LimeLemon,

I noticed that you're really on edge latelly. Not just the topic about the arcade, but almost everywhere.

I get alot of feedback that people don't like it. They consider you rude and careless.

I could even stretch it to the rules for not respecting others, but that won't do anything either.

If you have something on your mind that you need to get of your chest, feel free to reply to me expressing your issue. Otherwise I'd like to ask you to take it easy.

If you really can't take it easy, perhaps you should take a short break from the forum.

Yours,

LPChip

Well... that is true. I don't know if it's a coincidence, but I have been like that (on the forum) since my flipout in Mafia 4. I just got really mad at how Lunar where and decide to be the exact opposite. I wanted to be more like Salmoneous, he is very straigth forward and don't give a shit about what people think about it.
Well... blahness. I will continue this shit when I come home.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on September 14, 2009, 15:32:22

There's a difference between speaking whats on your mind, and just being plain rude.

But for your own sake, its better to talk about this in private.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on September 14, 2009, 20:35:06

Ok, forget about this thing about the arcade then.
Also, I would like to point out I still think you are good admins/mods. I just didn't think you did a very good job with the arcade, but I understand you don't have time and stuff. I would never have time for anything if I had such a big responsibility as a forum admin lol. Kinda.
I will also try to have a better attitude in the future. Maybe avoid (serious) discussions. Because I never meant to be rude or careless, in my opinion I was just blah and lulz but oh well. XD

So, lets delete both this topic and the arcade with fire and pretend this never happened! :crazy:

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: Salmoneous on September 23, 2009, 13:11:46

If you don't give a crap about the arcade anymore, remove it. You say you would do monthly reset and you say screw it so just delete the arcade if you don't want to bother handling it.

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LPChip on September 23, 2009, 21:25:40

I'll think about it...

Title: Re: Za Nifflas Arcade!?
Post by: LimeLemon on September 23, 2009, 21:52:38

Quote from: Salmoneous on September 23, 2009, 13:11:46

If you don't give a crap about the arcade anymore, remove it. You say you would do monthly reset and you say screw it so just delete the arcade if you don't want to bother handling it.

Yep.
I was serious about my last post. The Arcade was fun, now it's only trouble.
And since you can't add more games and don't have time for resets...