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Title: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Exp HP on November 15, 2009, 22:06:54

Bit Knytt is a generic themed adventure level where you help a byte find its way through the electronic world and the internet to be downloaded to its destination.  Where exactly it will go and what meaning its 8 bits hold, this little byte does not know....

Levels are all digitally themed, and there will be some music written by yours truly.  But I have nothing written yet because I lost my music composition software; we recently installed Windows 7 on that machine and that made the program become unregistered, so we have to purchase another license! Grrrrr.....

The game is planned to be linear without feeling linear.  While places do have an "end" to them, the areas connected to them generally branch off from the middle, so you can reach a lot of places at any given time even though you can't necessarily complete them.


I'm trying to offer some interesting level ideas in terms of concept.  Examples:

There's an area that is wrapped vertically; fall down the bottom, come out up top.
The Internet area is a series of big mazes where you must try not to get lost; it's split up into several "networks" each in which your task is to find your way to the next.
Though it's not made yet, I plan to have an area where there are two versions that you can freely switch between to solve puzzles.



Right now it's in the very early stages of development.  Don't expect to see Bit Knytt out for a long while!

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Pumpkinbot on November 15, 2009, 22:10:24

Looks and sounds promising! :D

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Purple Pineapple on November 15, 2009, 22:29:59

Can't wait for this to come out.

Btw, nice screenshot of the editor.

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Exp HP on November 15, 2009, 22:39:11

Heh, that shot was purposefully shot in the editor because it was originally going to include the map.  Then I decided against that (as it is really subject to significant change), and.... Wait, why am I explaining the backstory to the image rather than just fixing it? (other than "doing it for the lulz," that is)
Fixed. X-P

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: StaticRomantic on November 16, 2009, 00:30:18

that baby is floating

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Evil on November 16, 2009, 02:28:51

Quote from: StaticRomantic on November 16, 2009, 00:30:18

that baby is floating

(http://i37.tinypic.com/72yt8g.jpg)

lol u funny

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Nice level! I cant wait for it!

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Pick Yer Poison on November 16, 2009, 05:23:33

Quote from: Evil on November 16, 2009, 02:28:51

Quote from: StaticRomantic on November 16, 2009, 00:30:18

that baby is floating

http://i37.tinypic.com/72yt8g.jpg (http://i37.tinypic.com/72yt8g.jpg)
lol u funny

(http://nifflas.ni2.se/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=429.0;attach=1488)

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Exp HP on November 16, 2009, 07:12:13

Quote from: Evil on November 16, 2009, 02:28:51

Quote from: StaticRomantic on November 16, 2009, 00:30:18

that baby is floating

lol u funny

nonono u funny

Anyways, yes, that baby is floating.

Why?
Because it's boycotting the laws of physics!

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Razzorman on November 16, 2009, 15:00:20

Quote from: Exp HP on November 16, 2009, 07:12:13

Why?
Because it's boycotting the laws of physics!

Those darned e-petitions, amirite?

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: yohji on November 16, 2009, 15:22:17

The first and the third screens look very intriguing! Good luck, I'll be waiting for this  :)

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Boxtop on November 24, 2009, 06:16:22

I had a similar idea for a level, in which Juni was a search program sent out by the User to look for a torrent of Quake 1, and she had to travel through the Internet and stuff. It was going to have a similar Tron-like theme to it, too.

I called it Digital Oasis. I made an intro and 1 1/2 screens before I just gave up on it.

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Exp HP on November 30, 2009, 04:00:42

I've added a new location to the game, and expanded on the area near the level start (of which I previously only had the first screen made).
The 2nd and 3rd images in the first post have been slightly updated.

Screen count (minus shift-doubles and nominal screens): 52...ish.

New screenshots!!

Spoiler: less bits, moar airborne islands (click to show/hide)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/2uo2r8j.png)

Spoiler: All four sides point to YES! (click to show/hide)

(http://i49.tinypic.com/mvky1t.png)

I also wrote a song.  I have a place in mind for it, but I haven't actually made the place yet.  Attached is the first half of the song (the full song is over the 0.5Mb size limit, and I don't really like the second half, anyways, so it might be changed later on anyways).

Spoiler: Info on SwitchDemo.ogg (click to show/hide)

Title: Switch!
Time: 0:22
Loop: No. The full song loops, but this is just a portion.
Tempo: ~165 BPM (upbeat)
Duple time signature
Key: D Dorian

Made in: Sony ACID Pro
VST(s) Used:  All instruments are from EDIROL Hyper Canvas (VSTi)

Comments:
This is my first time producing music in a dorian* key.  Also, with the melody for this piece, I focused less than I usually do on making it catchy and focused more on making it dynamic.

* Dorian is a scale in which the resting tone is Re.  A dorian scale is "Re Mi Fa So La Ti Do Re".
(that is using the American standard for naming notes, which is relative; Do is always the tonic note, and thus
changes depending on the song in question.
This is opposed to the English "fixed" standard, in which Do is always C regardless of the key you're in.)

More music will come in the future...

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Strange Darkness on November 30, 2009, 10:23:29

sounds great!  :nuts:
looks great!  :nuts:
hope all goes well!  :D

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Comhon on December 01, 2009, 14:18:37

Hmm, very, very, very interesting level... ;)
I am looking forward it... :nuts:

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Xia on December 05, 2009, 01:24:32

Looks like a cool idea.

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Exp HP on December 06, 2009, 18:24:46

I'm going to try a streaming site for sharing my music.  I might not have picked the right site for what I'm trying to do, though...

Here's music for the 8-bit floating island.

Spoiler: info on O Land in the Sky (click to show/hide)

Title: O Land in the Sky
Time: 2:00 (full)  0:23 (demo)
Loop: No
Tempo:  148-210 BPM (variable)
Meter is Unusual Paired 2+3
Key: C Major

Made in: Sony ACID Pro
VST(s) Used:  All instruments are from EDIROL Hyper Canvas (VSTi)

Comments:
You'll notice a significant contrast in mood between this piece and the other one I have shared.

The first part was an attempt to make my music fit in with the rest of Knytt Stories' music.  It's peaceful sounding.
The second part gets faster and slower and is a repeating/evolving theme inspired by the music of DROD Architect's Edition.  The floating island is going to have windmills and other sorts of stuff (COs) that I think will go great together with the second part of the song.

Oh, and it's in Unusual Paired 2+3 meter.  That means there are 5 beats per measure (as opposed to the regular 4, 3, 6, or 8) and the macrobeats are of unequal length. (BUM bum BUM bum bum, or, in rythm notation, "DO-be DO-ba-bi")

The full song is here:
http://www.mymusicstream.com/artist/6105/song-6105olandin92317.html

I'm also attaching a demo in case the site doesn't work for you, or if you prefer downloading a file rather than going to a website to listen (which seems to be the general preference here, anyways).  The demo is of the second part.



My level's screen count has not really increased yet; I made three rooms but I also removed some stuff that sadly could no longer be a part of the level (they were bad anyways).
The music is pretty much all the visible progress I have made recently.

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Nakelyo on January 27, 2010, 12:36:41

I never seen this Internet idea in a knytt level, very original ! Sounds promising  :^^:

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Exp HP on January 27, 2010, 17:06:08

EDIT: Please disregard this post.

Spoiler: (click to show/hide)

:oops: Oh, yeah, this.  I'm glad to see it is still garnering even a small bit of interest.

I haven't really been working on any KS level as of late (though I have been spending a lot of time on the KS forum).  I do have another level in KS that I'm keeping mostly secret. What I will say about that level right now is that it's quite experimental, and it revolves around a concept that was planned to be a part of this level.  When I get back into level editing, I'll probably work on that instead of this.

I want Bit Knytt to be a very good level, so I want to wait until I have more experience level editing.  Remember that Bit Knytt is the first level I started.  The first rooms I ever made in Knytt Stories are in this level.  In hindsight, I should've started smaller, because I'd estimate that I spent on average about 45 minutes total of work on each room.  It will probably continue to take forever.

I don't really have any desire to work on Bit Knytt right now.  And yet, since I've been keeping the other level a secret, chances are that most people could care less about that one, and would much rather see this one come out.

So here's the deal.
I'll probably be motivated to work on this level if I hear from enough people that they want it. So if you're eager for Bit Knytt, post!

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: DesiredRevenge on January 28, 2010, 05:42:46

Don't Like It.

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: yohji on January 29, 2010, 00:02:12

Well, like I said before, the screenshots look very intriguing. Very appealing visual style in the first two, a terrific floating baby and mysterious shifts in the third. You should totally finish it, or at least release some sort of beta... some of the best KS levels remained unfinished, and yet made an impact because the authors released betas at some point.

Not that I'd like a beta more than a finished level, of course - I just mean I'd really like to explore that world the screenshots suggest  :) As for the amount of feedback, well, cheer up! You had like 10 people respond enthusiastically here! That's more feedback than any of my levels ever got, more feedback than some very nice levels released recently got! It's just that the community is kind of small these days.

Title: Re: [Normal][Challenge] Bit Knytt
Post by: Firewall on March 04, 2010, 02:40:22

Seems like a "Bit-man" from "Spybotics: The Nightfall Incident". The color matches the Bit-man too! Is there something I must know?  O_o